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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Helios64 should follow mainline. And our standard rk3399 kernel so should be generally be fine to keep updating
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> okay!
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<nekomancer[m]> <Armbian-Discord> "<l​anefu> Helios64 should follow..." <- But dts updates according to changes in kernel
<nekomancer[m]> Damn dts
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Huh?
<Werner> Huh!
<alekksander> focal gives me black screen after few minutes of running :( this was with turned off compositor. im going back to debian base
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> all variants have 100% exactly the same hardware interface
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> applications level diff has little to no impact on board performance.
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> it must be some other problem
<BeachyHead> thanks @lanefu @NeonFetch
<alekksander> IgorPec: perhaps. but mouse cursor was stuttering and blinking since first run. something was wrong
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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> by using armbian prebuild desktop?
<alekksander> yes. 21.08.1 on 5.10.60
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> hardware?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> focal, hirsute?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> desktop
<alekksander> odroid hc4, focal, default xfce
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> hmm, i think its related to 3d supppot
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> which works poor on amlogic
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> current workaround is to disable composition and if that doesn't help, disabling 3d support entirely. anyway its not very useful for day to day tasksa
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> debian works in this regard, because there 3d is disabled by default
<alekksander> ah, that probably explains it. black screen was appearing with compositor disabled
<alekksander> performance was much better though, and no issues with cursor
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yes. i think we changed defaults for this but in sources
<alekksander> anyhow i'm gonna stick with bullseye for now. it's gonna get stable status at some point, right…?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> stable is strong word 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> 3d support we have no influence on. its developed by collabora
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> general board functions are O.K.
<alekksander> personally i don't think i'll ever need full 3d support. i just need stable nas + some p2p apps running continuously
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> and Ubuntu userland is more matured in any case
<Werner> for that you do not even need a desktop that wastes memory...
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> Focal CLI
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> + samba / NFS to achive ultimate happiness 😉
<alekksander> true, but for soulseek protocol handle i think i prefer gui. there is no supported cli client as far as i know
<Werner> tried daemon/client combination? museekd and museeq for example
<alekksander> doesn't seem much in development
<alekksander> also forgive my question, but is there a reliable way for remote control with just cli?
<Werner> ssh
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<alekksander> just as i thought :P
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<IgorPec> werner: before removing boards, we should try to call out once more ... those are the boards that doesn't have maintainers and will be removed .... apply now
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<Werner> Go ahead. There are still four days left ;)
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<IgorPec> we will not achieve what we want and we have absolutely no changes ready for website or other communication
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<Werner> Then simply hold merge until communication is prepared
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<IgorPec> yes ofc
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<Werner> however you can put a link to the PR into call out
<IgorPec> yes
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<IgorPec> werner: have you noticed?
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<alekksander> well i have another problem… dunno why, but all of the sudden some actions make cursor/ui stutter and slow. it happens if i display file manager, or system settings, but also if i drag rectangle on desktop
<alekksander> it's to the extent i can barely do anything in mentioned windows
<alekksander> compositor on/off doesn't matter. cpu usage is not excessive either. my suspicion is gpu
<IgorPec> gpu drivers sucks, we know that
<IgorPec> but it should be fine if you disable mesa
<alekksander> here is funny think. i disconnected and connected display again… the issue is gone, all is fluent again. for how long…?
<alekksander> ok, thanks for the tip. ill try to observe what causes it and if it happens over and over again i will disable mesa as You suggested. thanks
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<argonautx> is there a way to clean the whole build env?
<IgorPec> check CLEAN_LEVEL parameter
<IgorPec> otherwise its safe to remove cache folder
<IgorPec> git checkout -f to reset changes if you made any
<stipa> ram in soc ?
<stipa> yeah, nothing new
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<stipa> or better put a sandwich
<nekomancer[m]> <alekksander> "here is funny think. i disconnec..." <- just for lulz... I buy a rk3356 tvbox on aliexpress, use as tvbox, with stock andtoid. Time to time (1-3 times a day) screen turns green, not flat field, but like monochrome green picture.
<nekomancer[m]> fixes with hdmi plug of-on, or tv on-off.
<alekksander> perhaps secretly it's a tvbox for cats
<[TheBug]> driver has some broken edid negotiation with the monitor you are using, plug out and in restarts the process over
<[TheBug]> if you used a different monitor may be better or could be just the driver they used is broken after so many cycles
<c0rnelius> stipa: Would be intriguing if they added 5GHz wifi. But they cheaped out. Better off buying the 3a+.
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<stipa> c0rnelius: yeah
<steev> agreed.... but i still got one because i know kali users are gonna request it
<c0rnelius> I didn't got that far, I just added added the dtb to the packaging patch. Someone can mail me one if they want? I can't imagine there is any real trickery to getting it working though?
<c0rnelius> 3b in a small form factor?
<c0rnelius> I have a few cams running the zero w. So I am interested in it because of that, but not enough to be `just replace them` because.
<c0rnelius> Although moving the cams off armel would be nice.
<c0rnelius> that radxa zero looks pretty neat but you can't find one to save ur life.
<stipa> yeah, those small boards have their uses
<stipa> for IOT for sure
<stipa> as in things, not so much in wifi nodes and APs
<stipa> well, they could serve that purpose but bunch of stuff has to be plugged into them to make them usable which is better done with more powerful SBCs
<stipa> having linux running in "things" is neat
<lanefu> yep
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<steev> c0rnelius: needs firmware
<steev> but the dtb and the dtsi it relies on, and that firmware should be all that are needed
<steev> dtb ->ddts
<c0rnelius> good to know, i'll add it to the batch.
<steev> but for the kernel you just need the two commits
<steev> the top two commits here - - don't steal the one that isn't zero2 though, that's my backport of it (we need 5.4 kernel for nexmon *sigh*)
<c0rnelius> steev: I just pull from the foundation.
<c0rnelius> But I added the firmware *.txt file to me firmware.
<c0rnelius> me/my*
<steev> you need the file too, it's a 43436s which afaik doesn't exist upstream
<c0rnelius> thanx for the tip
<c0rnelius> The foundation loves to make things complicated. I bet there is more to it than this.
<steev> bluetooth might need other firmware, but i haven't looked
<steev> i will once i get mine
<c0rnelius> My guess would be no, but I doubt that *.txt file is correct.
<c0rnelius> Probs needs proper naming to not spit out an error in the dmesg
<c0rnelius> I won't know until someone says something.
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