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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Helios64 should follow mainline. And our standard rk3399 kernel so should be generally be fine to keep updating
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<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> okay!
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<nekomancer[m]>
<Armbian-Discord> "<lanefu> Helios64 should follow..." <- But dts updates according to changes in kernel
<nekomancer[m]>
Damn dts
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Huh?
<Werner>
Huh!
<alekksander>
focal gives me black screen after few minutes of running :( this was with turned off compositor. im going back to debian base
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> all variants have 100% exactly the same hardware interface
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> applications level diff has little to no impact on board performance.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> it must be some other problem
<BeachyHead>
thanks @lanefu @NeonFetch
<alekksander>
IgorPec: perhaps. but mouse cursor was stuttering and blinking since first run. something was wrong
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> by using armbian prebuild desktop?
<alekksander>
yes. 21.08.1 on 5.10.60
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> hardware?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> focal, hirsute?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> desktop
<alekksander>
odroid hc4, focal, default xfce
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> hmm, i think its related to 3d supppot
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> which works poor on amlogic
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> current workaround is to disable composition and if that doesn't help, disabling 3d support entirely. anyway its not very useful for day to day tasksa
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> debian works in this regard, because there 3d is disabled by default
<alekksander>
ah, that probably explains it. black screen was appearing with compositor disabled
<alekksander>
performance was much better though, and no issues with cursor
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> yes. i think we changed defaults for this but in sources
<alekksander>
anyhow i'm gonna stick with bullseye for now. it's gonna get stable status at some point, right…?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> stable is strong word 😉
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> 3d support we have no influence on. its developed by collabora
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> general board functions are O.K.
<alekksander>
personally i don't think i'll ever need full 3d support. i just need stable nas + some p2p apps running continuously
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> and Ubuntu userland is more matured in any case
<Werner>
for that you do not even need a desktop that wastes memory...
<alekksander>
true, but for soulseek protocol handle i think i prefer gui. there is no supported cli client as far as i know
<Werner>
tried daemon/client combination? museekd and museeq for example
<alekksander>
doesn't seem much in development
<alekksander>
also forgive my question, but is there a reliable way for remote control with just cli?
<Werner>
ssh
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<alekksander>
just as i thought :P
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<IgorPec>
werner: before removing boards, we should try to call out once more ... those are the boards that doesn't have maintainers and will be removed .... apply now
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<Werner>
Go ahead. There are still four days left ;)
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<IgorPec>
we will not achieve what we want and we have absolutely no changes ready for website or other communication
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<Werner>
Then simply hold merge until communication is prepared
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<IgorPec>
yes ofc
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<Werner>
however you can put a link to the PR into call out
<IgorPec>
yes
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<IgorPec>
werner: have you noticed?
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<alekksander>
well i have another problem… dunno why, but all of the sudden some actions make cursor/ui stutter and slow. it happens if i display file manager, or system settings, but also if i drag rectangle on desktop
<alekksander>
it's to the extent i can barely do anything in mentioned windows
<alekksander>
compositor on/off doesn't matter. cpu usage is not excessive either. my suspicion is gpu
<IgorPec>
gpu drivers sucks, we know that
<IgorPec>
but it should be fine if you disable mesa
<alekksander>
here is funny think. i disconnected and connected display again… the issue is gone, all is fluent again. for how long…?
<alekksander>
ok, thanks for the tip. ill try to observe what causes it and if it happens over and over again i will disable mesa as You suggested. thanks
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<argonautx>
is there a way to clean the whole build env?
<IgorPec>
check CLEAN_LEVEL parameter
<IgorPec>
otherwise its safe to remove cache folder
<IgorPec>
git checkout -f to reset changes if you made any
<nekomancer[m]>
<alekksander> "here is funny think. i disconnec..." <- just for lulz... I buy a rk3356 tvbox on aliexpress, use as tvbox, with stock andtoid. Time to time (1-3 times a day) screen turns green, not flat field, but like monochrome green picture.
<nekomancer[m]>
fixes with hdmi plug of-on, or tv on-off.
<alekksander>
perhaps secretly it's a tvbox for cats
<[TheBug]>
driver has some broken edid negotiation with the monitor you are using, plug out and in restarts the process over
<[TheBug]>
if you used a different monitor may be better or could be just the driver they used is broken after so many cycles
<c0rnelius>
stipa: Would be intriguing if they added 5GHz wifi. But they cheaped out. Better off buying the 3a+.
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<stipa>
c0rnelius: yeah
<steev>
agreed.... but i still got one because i know kali users are gonna request it
<c0rnelius>
I didn't got that far, I just added added the dtb to the packaging patch. Someone can mail me one if they want? I can't imagine there is any real trickery to getting it working though?
<c0rnelius>
3b in a small form factor?
<c0rnelius>
I have a few cams running the zero w. So I am interested in it because of that, but not enough to be `just replace them` because.
<c0rnelius>
Although moving the cams off armel would be nice.
<c0rnelius>
that radxa zero looks pretty neat but you can't find one to save ur life.
<stipa>
yeah, those small boards have their uses
<stipa>
for IOT for sure
<stipa>
as in things, not so much in wifi nodes and APs
<stipa>
well, they could serve that purpose but bunch of stuff has to be plugged into them to make them usable which is better done with more powerful SBCs
<steev>
but the dtb and the dtsi it relies on, and that firmware should be all that are needed
<steev>
dtb ->ddts
<c0rnelius>
good to know, i'll add it to the batch.
<steev>
but for the kernel you just need the two commits
<steev>
the top two commits here - https://github.com/steev/linux/commits/rpi-5.4.y - don't steal the one that isn't zero2 though, that's my backport of it (we need 5.4 kernel for nexmon *sigh*)