03:14 <whitequark> FFY00: ohhhh, that makes a lot more sense, actually

03:15 <whitequark> I would be happy to discuss that and potentially have it implemented

07:33 <d1b2> <Nate> Anyone implement an 8b/10b en/dec in amaranth?

07:36 <whitequark> which 8b10b?

07:37 <whitequark> (there's the TMDS one used in HDMI, and the IBM one used in Ethernet, PCIe, etc)

07:37 <d1b2> <Nate> IBM

07:37 <d1b2> <Nate> Also, is there any native way to use an ice40 UP pll in amaranth? Or should I just use litex / icepll / radiant? Seems like there was something agreed upon here but I couldn't seem to find any related code: https://github.com/YosysHQ/icestorm/blob/master/icepll/icepll.cc

07:38 <whitequark> you can use it through an Instance, and I've reimplemented the icepll algorithm before

07:38 <whitequark> https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/blob/main/software/glasgow/platform/ice40.py

07:40 <whitequark> please don't copy the code as-is, add an AsyncResetSynchronizer to it resetting odomain with the LOCKED output of the PLL

09:13 <_whitenotifier-9> [amaranth] tilk opened issue #764: GTKW files with signal groups - https://github.com/amaranth-lang/amaranth/issues/764

09:14 <_whitenotifier-9> [amaranth] whitequark commented on issue #764: GTKW files with signal groups - https://github.com/amaranth-lang/amaranth/issues/764#issuecomment-1461626392

15:29 <crzwdjk> I copied that code directly, I guess that might explain why sometimes it just doesn't work

15:30 <whitequark> let's just say I was worse at writing HDL back when i wrote it

15:37 <crzwdjk> I mean, I have no idea what I am actually doing, I'm kind of surprised that the stuff I wrote actually works at all.

15:38 <crzwdjk> At least amaranth comes with things like those synchronizers, that makes it easier to just put one in as needed.

19:20 <cr1901> This weekend's diversion is to update this code I haven't touched in 3.5 years to work w/ Amaranth as it exists today (without the compat layer): https://github.com/cr1901/crispy-succotash/blob/nmigen/baseboard.py

19:21 <cr1901> Pretty sure I can take advantage of amaranth.data: https://github.com/cr1901/crispy-succotash/blob/nmigen/baseboard.py#L37-L44

21:53 <jess> hai

21:57 <cr1901> Sandcats are everywhere on IRC (tbf, so am I :P)

21:57 <FireFly> sandcats are good

21:57 <cr1901> Indeed. As are Pallas Cats and Brown Tabbies

21:59 <jn> cats :3

22:02 <d1b2> <OmniTechnoMancer> Manuls 🙂

22:07 <FireFly> meow