<testone>
I'm new to GUI and I'm moving my first steps with glimmer-dsl-libui
<testone>
I wanted to change font of the text of buttons, but it seems it isn't possible without writing from scratch a button-like element (e.g.: examples/area_based_custom_controls.rb)
<testone>
I saw correctly or there's a simpler way?
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<sphex>
Ever had a program that you're not sure if it's worth it to try to whip it into shape and release it?
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<alimiracle>
hi
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<nakilon>
glimmer thing is much less costomizable and powerful than it looks like, due to how much work is put into the advertising of it
<nakilon>
they are making glimmer for everything and for nothing good enough at the same time
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<nakilon>
I needed that half-unit shifted tables of dynamically adding/removing rows and cols, and to align the character "+" horizontally and vertically it needs some CSS tweaks, and making them right in Chrome was easier that it would be by code
<nakilon>
would be cool to have a GUI builder like MS, Borland, etc. provided; but glimmer at the moment could not even set a button text size unlinked to button size, or something like that
<nakilon>
so even visual editor would not help
<nakilon>
btw Windows used HTML+JS too when they made that (can't say it's good) replacement for Control panel
<nakilon>
AFAIK
<o0x1eef>
I agree about the web probably being the best platform for Ruby
<nakilon>
glimmer's author has forked my repo to show how it's done on his framework, said something like "see? made it in just a day, ok bye" but skipped 80% of functionality (the whole add/remove row/col); unfortunately, I see no PR anymore, somehow he deleted it, idk
<nakilon>
maybe not even the cell labeling, I don't remember
<o0x1eef>
Maybe you already considered it and maybe in your context it doesn't make sense, but the web will work on Linux, Windows, and more. It can use the same code as well. The ruby code would be behind a HTTP server, and your client would be HTML/JS. Maybe a browser, but doesn't have to be
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<testone>
nakilon, o0x1eef: to be honest, using a browser was my first thought, but I don't know JS at all (and I always hated ppl psuedo-locking right click and things), and I needed it for sure
<testone>
moreover: the program should work with an old serial device and, if possible, be ported to old PCs (I hope not DOS :)
<testone>
I remembered: I liked ruby but I used just for silly sys tools, better learn some more ruby than a single line of JS ;P
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<testone>
o0x1eef: before reading anything, I thought at tk and wx, then I started reading and anything seemed abandoned, discontinued, deprecated, ... :(
<testone>
most of the q/a and articles praised at shoes, but it was in a sort of limbo
<testone>
when I saw that not even qt bindings existed anymore I asked myself how many things changed in the world since I last touched a .rb file
<o0x1eef>
I'm not sure Ruby is a good language for GUI applications. Maybe in the days of MacRuby, IronRuby, etc that would have been different and even then those probably wouldn't fit your requirements that well. Generally it is good for the web, scripting, sysadmin and things like that
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<sphex>
Do you guys think there would be interest in an alternative test runner for Ruby?
<sphex>
I made one to run tests for my own projects. Including a very old code base that has a lot of tests and took a long time to run.
<sphex>
It has both Minitest and RSpec tests. I wanted to run all of the test cases in parallel and get just one report. I didn't like the existing ways to do it.
<sphex>
And making a new runner for that was kind of fun.
<sphex>
It runs all of the individual test cases in parallel over multiple processes.
<sphex>
But the thing is, it has its own (partial) implementation of the RSpec and Minitest/Test::Unit APIs and it's not 100% compatible with them. So it's not a drop-in replacement for other runners.
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<o0x1eef>
If it fits your needs then it is already useful and maybe other people feel the same way about it so why not
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<sphex>
o0x1eef: yeah maybe. I would have to do some cleanups. And figure out how to "gemify" it. That's probably not too much trouble but I never did it.
<weaksauce>
now's as good a time as ever
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