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<cousteau>
Greetings!
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<cousteau>
What is Zbk? Is it the subset of bitmanip instructions (future B extension) targeting crypto functionality?
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<cousteau>
(and would Zbkb be "the Zbk instructions that are also part of Zbb, i.e., basic bitmanip instructions"?)
<cousteau>
I was checking some crypto/hash algorithms and all the time I was thinking "man, if only RISC-V had a ROT instruction"
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<cousteau>
(which is pretty much what the Zbkb subset provides)
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<AhmedCharles[m]>
Only the Zb(abcs) extensions have been frozen, so it's hard to answer that question specifically. That said, Zbb does have rol, rolw, ror, rori, roriw, rorw (rotation).
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<cousteau_>
Oh cool, they removed the grev instruction (generic reverse) but kept its representation for rev8 and revb instructions!
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<cousteau_>
Maybe in a future they add the generalized bit reverse back, and it won't cause any backwards incompatibility
<cousteau_>
(One can only hope. I feel somewhat attached to that instruction because I came up with a very similar (if not identical) one, both representation and implementation)
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<xentrac>
what wsa the purpose of grev, cousteau_?
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<q66>
btw, got my unmatched today
<q66>
gonna be an interim rv64 build box for my distro until something better comes along
<jemarch>
enjoy
<q66>
after which it'll become testing hardware
<jemarch>
I certainly enjoy mine :)
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* moto-timo
wishing I jumped in on the unmatched earlier
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<drmpeg>
They are still in stock.
<q66>
when I ordered on mouser there was like 70 stocked
<drmpeg>
51 right now.
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<q66>
i just hope it's not too much of a potato for building packages
<q66>
I suspect it kinda is
<q66>
but oh well
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<q66>
nothing I can do...
<drmpeg>
Well, it's a little sluggish.
<q66>
from what I can tell it should be something like rpi3, which compared to my power9 and 5950x builders is nothing much but it will have to do for now
<drmpeg>
Could you cross-compile packages? Or is it just too painful?
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<q66>
I've written my buildsystem to be able to transparently cross-compile things, but cross-compiling is generally janky and introduces subtle bugs and is not testable, so a native machine is a native machine
<q66>
i already bootstrapped it for rv64 via crosscompiling fwiw
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<q66>
I'm thinking of somehow adding icecc support so it can build natively but offload the work to bigger machines, but that needs solving some problems
<q66>
notably my system uses namespaces to sandbox itself, and after fetch the network namespace is unshared alongside the others, so it can't easily access the other nodes in the network
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<drmpeg>
Yeah, I generally avoid cross-compiling. Long builds don't really bother me.
<q66>
there might be ways around that but it needs careful design so it does not break the sandbox
<q66>
like I could create a persistent network namespace outside and bridge it, then passthrough it into the sandbox and have the icecc process enter that namespace over the passed through stuff
<q66>
but that technically breaks the sandbox
<q66>
unless handled really carefully
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<drmpeg>
What distro are you building packages for?