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<Wizzup> does the mailing list still work? (maemo-leste@lists.dyne.org)
<freemangordon> I received the last mail there on 23.01
<Wizzup> I sent an email yesterday about the news update
<Wizzup> I need to rest a bit, bbl
<freemangordon> I just sent a test mail
<freemangordon> doesn;t seem to work
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<sicelo> When I submitted my LIS302DL patch upstream, i copied the mailing list. It rejected my email, and I reported the matter here.
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: we need iphb kernel module (as dkms)
<freemangordon> or some other more smart way
<Wizzup> battery life concerns?
<Wizzup> sicelo: yeah for patches it is sometimes a different story
<Wizzup> sicelo: but I got no rejection
<Wizzup> freemangordon: I got your email though
<Wizzup> ooh...
<Wizzup> The address to which the message has not yet been delivered is:
<Wizzup> maemo-leste@lists.dyne.org
<Wizzup> Delay reason: H=bridge.dyne.org [213.127.207.66]:
<Wizzup> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<maemo-leste@lists.dyne.org>:
<Wizzup> 450 4.7.25 Client host rejected: ca
<freemangordon> Wizzup: I see presence ui is using it
<freemangordon> and yes, battery concerns
<freemangordon> btw, telepathy-gabble has iphbd support too
<Wizzup> freemangordon: the nokia fork at least?
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<freemangordon> no, the upstream one
<freemangordon> but, for this to work we need the kernel module
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<ceene> the mailing list is seldom used, right?
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<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> ceene: yeah but I wish we could change that
<Evil_Bob> im trying the latest image of droid4 (20220410) but i dont get any display
<Evil_Bob> i dd the image to the flash (as usual), do i maybe need to update some other parts. i notice there are many graphics changes
<Evil_Bob> hmm nevermind maybe its a battery issue (havent used it for a long time). i'll try some things first, sorry for the noise
<l_bratch> really incredible update 16, great work and thank you to all (saw the update via the mailing list)
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<Evil_Bob> yeah it was the battery, it wont charge anymore, hmm
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<Wizzup> l_bratch: hm, so you did that email?
<Wizzup> I am confused
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<l_bratch> Wizzup: sorry, I misremebered! I actually saw Ivaylo Dimitrov's test mail via the list, which caused me to look at the website. Whoops :)
<Wizzup> hehe
<Wizzup> yeah so I sent out an email but for some reason mine didn't go through the ml
<Wizzup> not sure if it's my setup or dyne
<Wizzup> but maybe someone els ecan link the post on the ML
<freemangordon> l_bratch: so, my mail to the ML got delivered?
<l_bratch> freemangordon: yes, received in today's ML digest at 10:00 UTC
<freemangordon> hmm
<freemangordon> ok
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<noch> if i do 'emerge evince -av' on my gentoo, it lists
<noch> libhandy as a dependency for evince now.
<noch> so gnome is integrating libhandy.
<noch> but probably such changes are in sid for debian/devuan.
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<Francos> Hi, I just dug out an old N800, and have discovered Leste, but all I'm seeing is N900 info. is there anything for the 800?
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<akossh> Hi everyone.
<akossh> I am trying to use a XMLHttpRequest in the MicroB browser, but the javascript callback function assigned to onreadystatechange is never called.
<akossh> Does anyone have an idea, how to make it work?
<akossh> It works on all the other platforms, including Opera on the N900, except the stock browser (MicroB)
<akossh> How did ajax work back then?
<sicelo> Maybe you should take that to #maemo :-)
<akossh> I got it now, it does not work with synchronous requests, but works if the request is asynchronous.
<noch> Francos: unfortunately leste doesn't work on n800. i have n810, that's a very beautiful device, and i cannot use it because it has an old ssl library.
* sicelo agrees that N810 is beautiful, even though he only saw it in pics
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<Francos> noch: Thanks for the response. I'll find some paper and weight it down with my N800. ^_^
<sicelo> even if leste won't run on it, there's an N8x0 that was seeing kernel work recently. can't recall if it's the N800 or N810. meaning, even if it's not leste, a very light linux distro could still run on it :-)
<uvos> you could probubly get some cli only or maybe tiling wm to work on it
<uvos> omap2 has support in mainline (admittly recently it was found to not boot even on the referance platform but that was fixed again)
<uvos> but yeah hildon/leste - no way
<uvos> not at resonable speed
<Francos> It still has Bomberman on it which is pretty cool. I'll keep it as is.
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<noch> i'd like to have a modern linux on it. even if sxmo and pidgin.
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<sicelo> i think there's a good chance for that :-)
<sicelo> fwiw, the other day i got phosh running on Nokia N900, without even hardware acceleration, and although i didn't use it much, it didn't seem too bad. at one point while at rest with no application open, it had 45MB ram in use
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<sicelo> Pali: i have come up with the following script, https://gist.github.com/sicelo/0a0e895d81a6b73b26555d215dee296d
<sicelo> when you have time, please have a look and tell me what you think. the idea is to get bq27200 to have *some* reasonable initial capacity value, which is quite important when you have a device that can't charge at all due to broken USB. in short, i'm using the WRTNAC register in bq27200 to write the capacity from rx51_battery
<sicelo> the idea and solution not perfect (plus script is unfinished yet). if you think there's a way for this to be implemented in kernel itself, that'd be even better
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<noch> would be interesting to see screenshots of phosh on n900.
<noch> was it in landscape mode?
<noch> but i have to say, maybe again, how i dislike phosh. because it takes screenshot of the window, like android.
<noch> not like maemo. and when you navigate through the list of opened programs
<noch> you see screenshots
<noch> you don't see those are alive.
<noch> you don't see something is happening inside.
<noch> you see a screenshot of a terminal with top in it, top does not update.
<noch> also usability wise it is not convenient to search a window like that.
<noch> and it is not convenient to scroll among these windows to find
<noch> the one you need
<noch> in maemo it is very cool.
<noch> you see all the opened windows
<noch> and you see the updates in windows.
<sicelo> yes
<sicelo> but of all the modern mobile DEs, i'd say phosh is the one more closely related to maemo/hildon. some of the main people there are ex-maemo users/devs (and still own/use N900, at least once in a while)
<sicelo> noch: the squeekboard dev, for example, https://dcz_self.gitlab.io/posts/rust_maemo
<noch> squeekboard is good, better than our keyboard.
<Pali> sicelo: I have never investigated how bq27x00 could be configured. I even do not remember if I read this part of spec.
<Pali> So I could not help with this.
<sicelo> Pali: alright. i also found out about the WRTNAC only today while re-reading the datasheet. the script is working already, but i wanted to know if there are ways to improve it, or even if this the job of userspace or kernel. i think it's userspace because it's very N900 specific
<sicelo> s/WRTNAC/WRTNAC register/
<noch> sicelo, wow thank you for sharing1
<noch> sicelo, wow thank you for sharing!
<noch> omg, gnome worked with 256m of ram?
<sicelo> on idle it had about 110MB RAM in use :-)
<sicelo> tbh, i didn't use it much ... that N900 touchscreen doesn't work properly
<sicelo> noch: fun thing is - i didn't even use 3D acceleration. i wonder how it would have performed or felt if i had done so
<noch> so gnome is possible to use withoet 3d acceleration? or you mean you didn't try some 3d things?
<noch> was that pmos?
<noch> i can try to boot a recent mainline from sdcard on n810 and uboot.
<noch> but i don't know, i need to turn many things off in kernel to save memory, probably.
<sicelo> yes pmos. honestly, i don't think gnome42 and phosh are worth one's time on N900 (and N810). it was mostly proof-of-concept (okay ... also i wanted to play phosh's feedbackd that seems very interesting)
<sicelo> i think for N810, i3 makes the best sense ... you can tweak it to work well on a touchscreen device (at least at some point i had a nice thing going for sway on N900 with debian)
<sicelo> i will get back to my sway config at some point (just want to work on N900 kernel a little bit more) ... currently running 5.18-rc3, yay
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<Pali> Wizzup: Could you look at that U-Boot DM serial patch?
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<Pali> And... Tom was asking about USB DM...
<Wizzup> Pali: I'm home in a few days, then I can do both. the usb dm was in the back of my head but it's not done yet :(
<Pali> ok!
<Wizzup> I had to extend my work trip
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