<sicelo>
Not sure about the new mc-tool, but with the older one in Fremantle, you needed to use a 'request' argument ... something like 'request online'
* sicelo
doesn't have his n900 handy
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<freemangordon>
norayr: let me try
<freemangordon>
"Mission Control 5 implements the AccountManager and ChannelDispatcher"
<freemangordon>
that means it will not connect for us
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: may I have access to conversation ui code?
<Wizzup>
now we just need the code for the ones in between
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<norayr>
freemangordon: but if it connected, would we see that this person is online, and this person is away? is it implemented in osso-abook?
<norayr>
oh, he's not here now.
<sicelo>
Wizzup: interesting! Miracles this year
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<bencoh>
that's kinda unexpected
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<tmlind>
huh? that's cool although maybe a bit late to release it :)
<bencoh>
:]
<tmlind>
should have happened at least 10 years ago..
<tmlind>
still interesting
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<dsc_>
ola
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: now we need a mesa driver for the ones in berween :)
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<Wizzup>
dsc_: yo
<buZz>
is that Series1 in any device we support?
<bencoh>
err, not really, no ;)
<buZz>
:( aw
<buZz>
in what devices are they?
<bencoh>
apparently old PCI cards
<buZz>
the 'arcade' one too?
<bencoh>
could be, no idea
<norayr>
somebody please package dino from 'handy' branch.
<norayr>
(so i don't have to)
<norayr>
(i understand how bad it sounds)
<norayr>
(just i have three jobs now, it'll take some time until i get more free)
<norayr>
dino from handy branch draws a back button on small screens, to go to the contact list, instead of showing contacts and chat window simultaneously.
<norayr>
also it has a call button, so you can make audio/video calls.
<norayr>
with conversations it works.
<norayr>
calls from conversations to dino and vice versa.
<uvos>
norayr: libhandy is farily tied to gtk versions so probubly yes, but i have not tried
<norayr>
someone gave me an old device, atom in a small case, almost like a flash drive, but connects to hdmi port.
<norayr>
i believe it was produced around 2010
<norayr>
i can check, not later than 2013
<norayr>
so i was using debian on it.
<norayr>
(was thinking to use leste, btw)
<norayr>
and i love xscreensaver.
<norayr>
so most of the time this device connected to the tvset was just showing xscreensaver's random screensaver.
<norayr>
but it would inevitably hang if left so for several hours. always less than 24 hours, mostly less than 12.
<norayr>
there was some software bug in a video driver, i believe i found discussions about it.
<norayr>
so eventually, in summer 2021 after the new debian release, i have upgraded the os, and the bug disappeared. now it can show xscreensaver for months.
<norayr>
i mean this is how slow is debian.
<norayr>
i got a bugfix at the time probably only i use that device.
<norayr>
when that device is almost forgotten.
<sicelo>
😆
<sicelo>
Put Leste on it
<norayr>
yes, i wanted. now i know that leste is that old debian which has a video driver bug.
<norayr>
also there was another problem - i had to do it by hand, i guess, because we have the qemu image for amd64, so i had to convert it to .img raw and dd it.
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<buZz>
norayr: leste is 100% current devuan
<buZz>
which is 99% current debian
<buZz>
not sure why you have 'old debian' in your mind ;)
<buZz>
-maemo- is, leste isnt
<norayr>
it's old stable, we just discussed, and i told a story about that device that has a bug in video card driver.
<norayr>
which was eventually solved in new release this summer.
<norayr>
in 2021
<norayr>
after like 10 years after the device was produced.
<norayr>
i mean maemo is oldstable. we also discussed that it's hard to build libhandy on it.
<norayr>
i had troubles building 'megapixels' app.
<norayr>
because it wants gtk4, and we don't have it in our debian.
<norayr>
i love maemo, don't get me wrong. that's the best mobile os even today.
<norayr>
for me.
<norayr>
i mean leste.
<buZz>
right, devuan beowulf, buster
<buZz>
its not buzz :P
<norly>
gconf still seems to exist in debian 11, albeit as a legacy thing. am i missing something?
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<uvos>
norayr: you can just install devuan and then add our repos and install hildon-meta
<buZz>
nice
<uvos>
the images are really just for conveniance for certain devices
<norly>
uvos: is gconf dropped from devuan 11?
<uvos>
yes
<norly>
but not from debian 11?
<uvos>
no for both
<uvos>
and all of maemo uses gconf - hevly, often, unfortionatly as hacky ipc
<MartijnBraam[m]>
oh nice, some film stock emulations :D
<MartijnBraam[m]>
this should still work
<norayr>
yes, i anyway apply those to the ready jpegs, so applying just at the time of generation is ideal.
<norayr>
yay!
<norayr>
do you know if anyone tries to build megapixels at least for sailfish?
<norayr>
gtk4 works there with wayland.
<MartijnBraam[m]>
no idea
<norayr>
eh.
<norayr>
(:
* norayr
thinking if i can figure out how to take a photo without showing the video on the screen.
<norayr>
if he can
<norayr>
from the source code.
<norayr>
and then write a script or a simple app with a button to take a photo.
<norayr>
without seeing what i take.
<norayr>
that's also ok with me. (:
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<norayr>
uvos: is it possible to detect a swipe from the edge of the screen by hildon, not by the application?
<norayr>
it would be cool to be able to detect a swipe from the edge and instigate the same behaviour that occurs when user clicks on the hildon button
<norayr>
at the left upper corner.
<uvos>
so libinput has support for sutch gestures
<uvos>
and recently a xorg extension has been added to acess them
<norayr>
it's much easier to swipe from right to left to 'minimize' instead of reaching with a finger to the left upper corner.
<norayr>
so it's not app that detects it, it's xorg and libinput.
<uvos>
yeah the hildon button is in the optimally terrible place
<norayr>
yeas especially on a big pinephone screen.
<uvos>
on d4 its not so bad
<uvos>
since it has the home key
<norayr>
true!
<norayr>
but probably support for gestures is not in our devuan.
<uvos>
we build very new x
<uvos>
that has this extension afaik
<uvos>
idk if your libinput is new enough
<uvos>
maybe so
<norayr>
my? my libinput is what maemo has.
<uvos>
right your/our
<norayr>
ah.
<uvos>
i suspect its new enough
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<bencoh>
on n900/fremantle I used wayv to mimic "gestures"
<bencoh>
(detected as such only when starting from the edge of the screen)
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<norayr>
bencoh: thank you, i'll take a look on wayv.
<norayr>
but i think it'd be cool to have this feature out of the box.