<Wizzup> sicelo: did you make a PR for droid4-linux yet?
<Wizzup> sicelo: I can merge it in and test it on n900 if you want my sign off
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<sicelo> Yes, I made it
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<Wizzup> man, the state of sip on linux is quite poor
<Wizzup> ekiga is no longer available, whcih was imho the most reliable
<Wizzup> linphone 3.x is a mess
<Wizzup> linphone 4.x is only in newer debian
<Wizzup> jami seems ok, but is not available for gentoo
<Wizzup> telepathy-rakia + empathy on my laptop works for incoming call, but then hangs up right away
<Wizzup> and dialing outgoing landlines just doesn't work it seems
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<Wizzup> uvos: ping, where was the pr with additional env vars for qt scaling and such?
<Wizzup> ok twinkle works for sip
<Wizzup> managed to make a call using the earpieace :)
<Wizzup> (sip call)
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<Wizzup> quite nice after boosting mic to 150%
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<sicelo> Yes, i also use twinkle on my laptop :-)
<Wizzup> fun to actually use leste and make calls
<Wizzup> ofc twinkle integration in maemo isn't great
<humpelstilzchen[> I use linphone on my laptop, works
<Wizzup> humpelstilzchen[: v3 or v4?
<enyc> I wondered about things like Matrix, Signal, ... rather than classic phone calls
<humpelstilzchen[> Until two weeks ago v3, now v4 (updated to devuan chimaera)
<Wizzup> ok, v3 does not allow me to add an existing sip account
<Wizzup> and there is a bug for it on their tracker
<Wizzup> and they said 'yeah, use v4'
<joerg> sicelo: wow
<bencoh> isn't the plan to use sjphone (or any other dialer) and telepathy?
<humpelstilzchen[> I had to redo the config in the v4 update. And yes, I have noticed that it is broken in the version in leste
<bencoh> with one of the telepathy SIP plugins?
<humpelstilzchen[> Also my linphone v3 config was multiple years old, so probably created when I did not hit that bug
<Wizzup> bencoh: yes, I just had a need to do sip calls from here (philippines)
<Wizzup> I tried empathy first but it just hangs up on the call right away
<joerg> twinkle still works fine (I'd hope so) ala we didn't manage to integrate video calls back when (v1.3)
<joerg> alas*
<bencoh> Wizzup: I referred to SIP as well, iirc telepathy has SIP support through telepathy-forgot-its-name
<Wizzup> bencoh: rakia
<Wizzup> bencoh: like I said, tried that in empathy
<Wizzup> it needs debugging
<bencoh> ah
<bencoh> I see
<Wizzup> at least on gentoo
<bencoh> nevermind, right, you did mention it, and I even read it *facepalm*
<Wizzup> :)
<Wizzup> we'll fix it
<joerg> just steer clear of watching twinkle logs using the integrated logfile viewer, it's an incredible memhog (about factor 60 iirc of logfile size, during close)
<joerg> Michel didn't want to improve it, my suggested system("/bin/less $file") didn't meet the platform independence
<joerg> bencoh: sofiasip?
<joerg> ok, I'm out of this business since 10 years it seems https://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-sofiasip/
<joerg> anyway twinkle been "the reference implementation" used by many SIP providers to check their own services. Miche deBoer contributed to the RFC standards related to SIP
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<joerg> actually it started as exactly that: reference implementation for RFCs
<joerg> btw twinkle comes with full-featured CLI, works in every shell irrespective of any GUI environment
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