00:51 <Quark> Is Crux a rolling release, or yearly release?

05:33 <ocb> heya

06:03 <ocb> is there anyone who can tell me something about their experience with scalable setups with possibility to add more bare metal servers in future for failover. im into plans of rebuilding a setup quite soon which would consist of a smaller amount of docker containers running various daemons, an nginx+php web server, and an mysql/postgre server. the project is currently on slackware since 2014 and its

06:03 <ocb> time to change. machines would be rented from a friend who has them in a datacenter so would not have physical access to hardware, wouldn't use any cloud stuff like amazon, azure etc. the idea is to upgrade from currently 1 server to 2 servers. machine 1 would be web server and database, machine 2 would be for high load (docker daemons, data processing). machine 2 daemons are dockerized for easier

06:03 <ocb> application upgrades/rebuilds and its been running like this for a few years now. at this moment all of this is one machine, so high load sometimes affects web server requests and would like to avoid this in future. so -- since i have no experience with scaling, not sure if i should containerize web server, db and all other services and leave host machine as clean as possible. in future when needed

06:04 <ocb> would introduce machine 3 which would act as a failover for mainly db and server. also using qemu hypervisor on other machines, but don't think this is a job for full virtualization, specially not for machine 2 which has high, mostly disk i/o and cpu load. would love to hear somebodies experience and/or recommendations.

06:07 <ocb> im also starting to get familiar with saltstack which should help with management.

12:02 <ocb> util-linux, coreutils, bash, readline have signature mismatch for patch files, not sure if only me

12:13 <ocb> signatures are actually ok. but the patch files were with 600 permissions after ports update so prt-get running with different user couldn't access patch fiies

12:14 <ocb> :)

15:22 <Uzr666> Hi, are there openly available sources of crux.nu official website somewhere? Because I fail to find them. Almost all big and small distros keep their website sources available, in the spirit of free software. I didn't find source code on which the website runs, only links to PmWiki site maker.

15:30 <SiFuh> Yes

15:30 <SiFuh> You want sources for the website or for the distro?

15:32 <frinnst> Uzr666: dont think so. not because of malice - just that nobody thought of it :)

15:33 <frinnst> last i looked it wasnt very portable either so would require quite a bit of time to make publishable

15:33 <SiFuh> Seems to be a strange request for a website though

15:33 <frinnst> doubt anybody wants to do that work

15:34 <Uzr666> SiFuh yeah, definitely I'm talking about website sources XD

15:35 <SiFuh> Sorry about that. Skimmed through your message too quickly

15:43 <Uzr666> SiFuh well, I don't think it's strange considering how FLOSS thrives on open collaboration and availability of everything to common users.  I thought the site looks really cool and lightweight, plus I've discovered PmWiki thanks to it.

15:44 <SiFuh> Uzr666: Ahh, that's cool. Yeah, makes sense.

15:45 <frinnst> you would be pretty crazy to build a new website on the crux.nu code though :)

15:51 <Uzr666> frinnst why, it's too convoluted? If it is, then perhaps it can become less convoluted once it's open to scrutiny of a wide audience of users

16:13 <Uzr666> SiFuh that's interesting, you say someone used to have sources. It's a bit mysterious, then who does have sources of the site as it is now? For instance, when there are some fixes to be applied

17:11 <SiFuh> Uzr666: pedja said he use to. Not me :-P I never said I knew of anyone with them.

17:11 <SiFuh> Oh, gone.. Nevermind

19:48 <Uzr666> SiFuh oh sorry, I'm not gone, just been disconnected >.< So, does anyone know who actually has crux.nu's current website source? Is there something like a 'webmaster' or 'site admin' position for the site?

22:21 <stenur> oh wow. They really made a new release!

22:23 <stenur> Oh wow they still provide it via FTP. :-)

22:23 <stenur> I think FreeBSD just recently discussed aka announced FTP will be removed entirely until someone objects, .. and i did not remember hearing an objection.

22:24 <stenur> Last time i looked downloading Slackware would have exceeded my internet traffic limit almost alone.

22:28 <SiFuh> stenur: Yeah they even went with the 5.15.19 kernel

22:29 <stenur> That is one tick better than what i have!