#armbian on 2023-02-16 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:22 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Hello. I am trying to install SteamCMD and run a server on my Rock-Pi 4B with Armbian 22.11.4 Jammy installer. However it seems like it's not compatible with the OS, I also tried to install docked by following some instructions for a workaround, but that got me no further. Is there no way for me to host a steam game server on my Rock-Pi? I'd much appreciate some help, thanks.

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00:39 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> You need to provide some errors/screenshots/more detail if you want help.. Your provided information is not much to debug with.

00:41 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Just reading the SteamCMD webpage that appears to be x86 only... not arm.. not natively.. you'll need to read outside resources

00:44 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> I have, and as I explained it concluded with SteamCMD not being compatible for the OS, which is why I am coming here to ask if anyone knows any workarounds or solutions.

00:44 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> I don't mean to be a hopeless newbie just simply asking for help without really providing a concrete error, but here I am. I have no clue how to get my Necesse server running, so as a last resort I am wondering if anyone have any experience with this.

00:44 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Thank you for looking into it tho.

00:44 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Its not the OS its incompatibile with.. its your machine architecture

00:45 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Its a PC vs the RockPI

00:45 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Ohh, okay. I can show you the error when I try to do sudo apt install steamcmd.

00:45 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> RockPI are ARM architecture ..

00:46 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> PC's are x86/x86-64

00:46 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Okay, so the Architecture isn't compatible with SteamCMD?

00:46 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Correct

00:46 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Okay, thanks

00:46 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> This thread has a possible workaround to get it working with the qemu emulator:

00:46 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/v6b9n5/steamcmd_on_arm_with_box86_and_box64_issues/

00:47 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

00:47 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> np

00:48 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> There is a way to download the server without SteamCMD here.

00:48 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> https://necessegame.com/server/

00:48 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Could that be a solution, or will I run into the architecture problem here aswell? It's Linux64

00:48 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Let me look.. just a sec

00:48 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Thanks!

00:48 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> I've downloaded the file, unzipped it. But it looks like I can't run the startfile because of some Java error

00:48 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> So that's where I am at rn

00:49 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1075579597686587543/image.png

00:50 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Thats because your env vars for your Java env aren't setup

00:50 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> so it doesn't know where to look

00:50 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Okay, I know pretty much know nothing abour env variables.

00:50 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> if this is a java server based app it is likely it would run

00:50 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Sorry for being so hopeless 😅

00:51 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> It is a file named Server which is a java file, so I suppose it's java based?

00:51 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> This is what the files look like

00:51 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1075580195328766083/image.png

00:52 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> let me try something on one of my test boxes.. just a min

00:52 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Thank you, I appreciate all the help!

00:53 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> I think the server is likely to run... your game client would still need a win/mac/lin x86 pc

00:54 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> (mac of all types)

00:54 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Okay, so I wouldn't be able to join on my Windows computer?

00:55 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Yes.. you just couldn't run the graphical client o the rockpi

00:56 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> but I am verifying that

00:56 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> it might not work on arm

00:56 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Okay, I am a bit confused.

00:56 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Thanks.

00:56 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Graphical client, is that something that sends graphical data to clients on the server?

00:56 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Just taking a guess here.

00:58 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Graphical client is the part you run on your computer .. server is what it talks to

00:58 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Graphical client is typically yours.... server is typically not yours unless you are running your own games

00:59 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Okay, so essentially I won't be able to join the server and play with graphics?

00:59 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Not with this pkg

00:59 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> This is for Windows/Linux/Mac PCs

01:00 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Alright, thanks.

01:00 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> I didn't think it'd be so difficult to host games on the Rock-Pi. I suppose I will need a VPS to host the server then.

01:01 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Nono... the PI can "host" the game...but you have to "connect" to it from a Windows/Linux/Mac PC

01:02 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Sorry, I am still a bit confused. I thought I couldn't connect with a Windows PC.

01:02 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Or, I could connect, but not get the graphics

01:03 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Well, it's fine. I don't need to understand it, all I need to know was that it isn't possible.

01:08 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Just out of general curiosity, and for learning some more. How would I solve this error and actually launch the server?

01:08 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1075584350210490388/image.png

01:08 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> just confirmed btw

01:08 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> [2023-02-15 20:06:48] (ERR) linux/x64

01:08 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> [2023-02-15 20:06:48] (ERR) macos/x64

01:08 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> [2023-02-15 20:06:48] (ERR) macos/arm64

01:08 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> [2023-02-15 20:06:48] (ERR) windows/x64

01:08 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> [2023-02-15 20:06:48] (ERR) windows/x86

01:08 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> only works on those

01:09 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Ahh, okay. Wouldn't my computer be windows/x64?

01:09 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> edit StartServer.sh

01:09 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> not your rockpi

01:09 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> so nano StartServer.sh?

01:10 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> change the file to

01:10 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> #!/bin/bash

01:10 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> java -jar Server.jar $@ &

01:10 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> then as long as java is installed it will work fine

01:11 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Removing the second cd ... line.

01:11 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> I don't have java installed tho, and I cannot figure out how to install it either. All of my search results shows me gui installations.

01:11 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Is there a simple command to install java?

01:11 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> yeah...

01:11 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> do this real quick so I can see which version you have available

01:12 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> apt-cache search java

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01:12 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> check for one like

01:12 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> It returned a long list, do you want the whole result?

01:12 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> openjdk-11-jre

01:12 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> no

01:12 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> just look for something like that

01:12 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> newest one

01:13 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> then do

01:13 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> sudo apt-get install openjdk-11-jre

01:13 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1075585686528340049/image.png

01:13 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> change 11 to the # of yours

01:13 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Okay, so that would be 22 I believe?

01:14 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> no its 11

01:14 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> openjdk-11

01:14 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Okay.

01:14 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> its the version

01:14 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> version 11

01:14 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1075586029337186324/image.png

01:15 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Is 11 the most recent java version?

01:15 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> it is on your machine

01:15 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Ahh, so I already have java-11 installed? Or is it the most recent available version?

01:16 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> just run that command I just gave you sudo apt-get install openjdk-11-jre

01:16 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> you will find out shortly hehe

01:17 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Sorry, I didn't notice you sent the install command. It's installing something, so it looks like it's working.

01:18 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> after that open a terminal as your user and run that updated startserver and hopefully it will work

01:18 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> if not it won't work on arm linux

01:18 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> It's installed, however I still get the permission denied error.

01:18 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1075586976134201485/image.png

01:18 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Okay, so it's yet again an architecture error?

01:18 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> you didn't make those changes

01:19 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> You're right, I edited wrong start file

01:19 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Hold on

01:19 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> just a sec

01:19 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> I didnt change nogui

01:19 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> its similiar

01:20 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> #!/bin/bash

01:20 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> /java -jar Server.jar -nogui $@

01:20 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> I did it now, but I still got the error. Included a cat so you could see.

01:20 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1075587423028920370/image.png

01:21 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Is it the same second line as you sent?

01:21 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> thats not what I typed is it

01:21 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Thanks, I'll try that

01:21 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Yeah, I realized, sorry

01:21 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> copy and paste the entire thing

01:21 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> just wipe the file

01:21 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> I have to leave in 5

01:22 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> being called downstairs

01:22 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Thanks, that worked

01:22 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> cool

01:22 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Have fun... good luck.

01:22 <Armbian-Discord> <MelonKami> Thanks! Have a good rest of your day/evening/night

01:23 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> cheers! Evening for sure

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18:46 <Armbian-Discord> <q4a> Hi. I got kernel panic (twice) on rock5b when installed armbian and entered root password + created user, but before config timezone. I updated kernel and hope that it will be more stable. Is it possible to restart setup script?

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19:25 <Armbian-Discord> <Werner> Tried touch /root/.not_logged_in_yet ?

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20:19 <Armbian-Discord> <q4a> No, but nevermind. I installed another image.. but still has kernel panic and freezes. I'll try another SPI later.

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20:35 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> @q4a this sounds more like power knowing you are running a Rock5.. What are you powering it with?

20:51 <Armbian-Discord> <q4a> 3 V / 5 A without PD

20:56 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> I assume you meant 5v?

20:56 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> or higher

20:56 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> 3v will not run it

20:58 <Armbian-Discord> <q4a> Yes.. fixed)

20:59 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> What drives and peripherals?

20:59 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> if you have a nvme and anything plugged up thats still "very" slim

20:59 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> If you only use emmc/microsd it should be ok though

21:00 <Armbian-Discord> <q4a> Only 1 usb for mouse/keyboard

21:00 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> What media?

21:00 <Armbian-Discord> <q4a> nvme

21:00 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Yeah thats tight

21:01 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> I run 3.5A on both of mine

21:01 <Armbian-Discord> <q4a> I'll try another power supply tomorrow

21:01 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> Good thing you did go non-pd though

21:03 <Armbian-Discord> <q4a> What SPI do you use?

21:04 <Armbian-Discord> <Tenkawa> I'd have to check... we make a custom image..

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21:49 <nekomancer[m]> how to avoid armbian-zsh?

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