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<nzingile> Hi.. all just to check if people is "alive" here :)
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<mckoan> good morning
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<eduter> Morning everyone here.
<eduter> I am about to start the interesting task of updating my Yocto project from "kirkstone" to "scarthgap". I am using a manifest where I specify in there the 10/11 repositories I am fetching "kirkstone" compatible, using the "google repo" tool.
<eduter> I have already read through all the "migration notes" for all the releases in between (including scarthgap 5.0 of course).
<eduter> Does anyone here has a good tip on how to approach this process? it could be a link to a website, a youtube tutorial, or any comment would be appreciate since I consider myself a newbie in Yocto (just start using it 3 weeks ago), and even "basic" stuff for you might be "gold knowledge" for me to try to approach this task in an efficient manner.
<eduter> Thanks in advance for any tip :-)
<mckoan> eduter: the main issue will be adapting the BSP part that is not Yocto related
<mckoan> eduter: what's your MACHINE?
<mcfrisk> eduter: in the end you need to fix the update to compile, then to pass all tests that you have. So updating in smaller steps, from release to next, may work, or a big bang of updating everything. In the end all SW components and overall product need to be reviewed and tested so that they work as you want.
<eduter> mckoan Thanks for you answer. I am using hardware from vendor PHYTEC, one of the repos I am fetching is maintained by them. The machine is aarch64.
<eduter> mcfrisk Thanks for your answer and time mcfrisk. I was considering doing an upgrade from LTS to LTS. I do not have a lot of recipes, in my custom layer.
<mcfrisk> with BSPs, it may be needed to reduce their scope on your platform. For example not updating BSP and keeping any SW there as is with only updates to make them compile.
<eduter> mcfrisk of course, running tests and smoke tests that have to succeed is part of the plan:-)
<mcfrisk> or if BSP vendors supports, also updating their delivery from old LTS to new. Doing both may bring too many changes to test
<mcfrisk> with new BSP delivery it could be possible to 'redo' the whole product config until end result is good enough.
<mcfrisk> every update and every product config is different, it's just a lot of hard work with lots of interesting problems to solve
<eduter> mcfrisk Ok. Need to leave now for 1 hour, but I will come back and reply. But how long this process could take?
<eduter> mcfrisk just an approximation from your experience... I am asking just out of curiosity nothing else
<mcfrisk> from days to weeks to months, depending on product complexity
<eduter> mcfrisk got you. Thanks a lot for your time and answers. I may post more quesitons later. Do you recommend any tutorial or reading besides the official migration notes?
<mcfrisk> the updates get easier once you've done a few. I've learned to limit impact of layers, e.g. BSP, with BBMASK if necessary, to only take what is really needed which helps with distro side updates then
<mcfrisk> migration notes, and just start doing it, either release at a time or the full big bang. end result will be the same
<eduter> mcfrisk I will investigate this BBMASK... this is the kind of thing I have never heard of that could be gold info for a newbie like me. Thanks. Will be back in a minute
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<khem> halstead:https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis/tree/main?tab=readme-ov-file
<khem> :) i thought you might find it interesting
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<vermaete> Somebody else with an error with devtool on Debian?
<vermaete> devtool
<vermaete> ERROR: init_path layers/openembedded-core/oe-init-build-env specified in config file cannot be found
<vermaete> I think it's releated to Debian, but I'm not sure.
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<khem> vermaete: works ok for me on debian12
<vermaete> khem: Thanks
<vermaete> It's working when I specify the basepath.  Will be for next week.  devtool -d --basepath=/home/jan/projects/mykas/
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<khem> yeah so default --base-path is wrong
<khem> how did you setup the workspace
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<vermaete> @khem: sorry for late response.  I'm using Kas for this project.  But it could be something of ROS is kind of sticking to the shell.
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