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<qschulz>
tgamblin: not sure there's going to be a v5 but I changed it locally already so if i need to send one it should be ready already :)
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<RP>
qschulz: quick question - in poky, should the component b4 config files be present or not (e.g. the one in yocto-docs)?
<qschulz>
RP: as far as I could tell, they don't matter because regardless of where you're running b4 from within poky git repo, the one at the root of the git repo will be used
<qschulz>
if that was your question
<RP>
qschulz: it was, thanks
<qschulz>
I can triple check from b4 source code if you want
<mcfrisk>
rburton: could genericarm64 default to 6.12 kernel? testing 6.6 with poky-altcfg is not that useful since a lot of features are not in the kernel
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<mcfrisk>
I presume poky-altcfg is frozen to the alternative kernel 6.6
<mcfrisk>
if I want to test genericarm64 with latest stable kernel and systemd, I need to manually tweak the machine or distro config now. local.conf override for kernel update doesn't work in poky-altcfg. and plain poky distro doesn't build with systemd by default, though that I could override in local.conf
<mcfrisk>
then systemd-serialgetty seems to be slowing boot to systemd "running" state by minutes while real serial console login already works as it was started by systemd/udev
<RP>
qschulz: it is fine, I just wanted to check before I try and merge things
<RP>
mcfrisk: if 6.6 doesn't work, we should probably be disabling it
<mcfrisk>
RP: it does work for serial console but for more advanced things like graphics not. kanavin_ said that poky-altcfg selection of 6.6 kernel is on purpose and thus I did not think we can change it.
<mcfrisk>
for genericarm64 machine, I think testing latest stable kernel is better to catch regressions earlier, and broad HW support without systemd and udev is not really working
<RP>
mcfrisk: we are supposed to test both kernels
<mcfrisk>
both kernel, with both sysvinit and systemd? AFAIK, official builds are only poky with latest kernel and sysvinit, and poky-altcfg for old stable kernel and systemd.
<RP>
mcfrisk: both kernels and both initsystems, we don't test all four combinations
<RP>
zeddii: are we keeping 6.6 for this release?
<mcfrisk>
yes, that's the problem for me. latest stable kernel and systemd is not an official configuration from poky or poky-altcfg
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<kanavin_>
mcfrisk, there's only so many combinations we can test :-/
<RP>
qschulz: I've merged it. I created a commit for meta-yocto
<RP>
Hopefully i got it all right
<mcfrisk>
kanavin_: I know, but testing newer kernels with systemd makes sense too, and many features need it. This could be a genericarm64 thing if rburton agrees.
<RP>
mcfrisk: but then where does the 6.6 kernel get tested with genericarm64?
<mcfrisk>
but then I would like poky-altcfg to allow overriding kernel version in machine config
<qschulz>
RP: .b4-config in poky looks ok, so I guess it is :)
<qschulz>
RP: thanks!
<RP>
qschulz: thanks for working through it :)
<mcfrisk>
RP: good question
<qschulz>
RP: any plan on backporting it to older releases?
<qschulz>
FWIW, we should be able to add send-prefixed to .b4-config for older releases
<qschulz>
and it would add the branch the patch was developed against
<kanavin_>
mcfrisk, maybe you can convince the vendor (e.g. ARM) to do this testing, rather than 'official yocto'
<qschulz>
(a different send-prefixed will be needed for each branch of course)
<qschulz>
send-prefixes*
<RP>
qschulz: hmm, this is straying into feature territory but I can see the advantage to doing it
<qschulz>
RP: i'm not pushing for it, the answer could be "don't know yet" or "let's see how it goes with master first"
<qschulz>
I believe the send-prefixes one could be beneficial to the project
<RP>
qschulz: I'm leaning to the latter, lets test this with master
<qschulz>
RP: cool, will check with agodard what's our plan(s) for the yocto-docs part
<qschulz>
how to document it since we only can use it on the master branch for now
<RP>
sakoman: you might find the above food for thought...
<qschulz>
RP: ah, I just realized I should have made changes to .b4-config return a To to the poky ML
<qschulz>
(it's not a big deal)
<qschulz>
because this script is only used when in poky git repo, so we know the .b4-config is poky's!
<RP>
qschulz: we can patch things :)
<qschulz>
and when changing OE-Core's .b4-config, this can only be done from OE-Core git repo
<qschulz>
which doesnt' call this script at all :)
<qschulz>
RP: will do :)
<qschulz>
RP: thanks for your patience and the poky-config patch, I hope this will make contribution easier
<mcfrisk>
kanavin_ RP : answer to testing 6.6 kernel is poky stable branch, not master branch
<RP>
qschulz: I figured I know combo-layer better than anyone else at this point
<RP>
mcfrisk: we don't do something different on release branches from development, that would be madness
<qschulz>
RP: the difficult part is I don't think anyone uses that tool except the maintainer? So that makes it a bit less accessible :)
<RP>
qschulz: right, it is just steve and I and sometimes rburton
<mcfrisk>
RP: that is fine, 6.6 kernel will be tested in poky and poky-altcfg builds from stable/LTS branch. master should move away from it.
<rburton>
RP mcfrisk: i tried that v4 uki/systemd series in meta-arm ci and it still fails
<rburton>
2025-02-05 21:41:17 - INFO - | NOTE: Signing systemd-boot binary /builds/software/yocto/meta-arm/work/build/tmp/work/cortexa57-poky-linux/systemd-boot/257.1/build/src/boot/efi/systemd-bootaa64.efi with /builds/software/yocto/meta-arm/work/build/sbkeys/db.key and /builds/software/yocto/meta-arm/work/build/sbkeys/db.crt
<rburton>
2025-02-05 21:41:17 - INFO - | Error reading file /builds/software/yocto/meta-arm/work/build/tmp/work/cortexa57-poky-linux/systemd-boot/257.1/build/src/boot/efi/systemd-bootaa64.efi: No such file or directory
<mcfrisk>
I've been testing this and the upstream systemd fixes on meta-arm qemuarm64-secureboot builds with all oeqa tests enabled
<rburton>
ok fired again, cheers
<mcfrisk>
no problem, it should pass. if not, just let me know
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<ThomasRoos>
Has anyone installed openssl 1 and 3 together in a image yet?
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<Schlumpf>
Hi, stupid question: I have an image with an application, that uses GTK+3. If I populate a SDK for this image, the gtk3 headers and pkg-config .pc files are missing. Why?
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<rburton>
Schlumpf: shouldn't be. can you replicate that with eg the core-image-sato sdk?
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<zeddii>
RP: No, I planned on removing it, was waiting for M3, and then with FOSDEM fell behind on actually doing it. I'll send that with my next series.
<RP>
zeddii: great, that will sort the problem then :)
<RP>
zeddii: I thought that was the plan but I could have lost track
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<rburton>
RP: fwiw I approve of mikko's patches
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<RP>
rburton: which ones? :)
<rburton>
well i tested v4
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<RP>
rburton: so no the meta-yocto-bsp one for example? :)
<RP>
rburton: but I do know know which ones you mean
* mcfrisk
sends too many patches, rburton talks about systemd-boot-native/ukify :)
<rburton>
yes :)
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<zhmylove>
Hello! Is there any way to share a single python dict() between tasks? Even any dirty ways? I don't want to write it in file and read it hundreds times
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<rburton>
if there was, can you _guarantee_ that with sstate involved and short-circuiting lots of operations that it would make sense still?
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<rburton>
like what if only one of the tasks re-ran in a build
<rburton>
much easier to write a file. pickle it if speed is a priority.
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<zhmylove>
I need to share read-only data structure being created at the stage of sstate cache checking with tasks defined in sstate.bbclass
<zhmylove>
I can guarantee, yes
<zhmylove>
I do not want pickle and write to a temp file
<rburton>
maybe explain what you're trying to do because there might be a better way?
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<zhmylove>
OK, I'll try. Right now I'm creating index file for my 156 sstate-cache servers. Yocto is really slow now iterating over those servers
<zhmylove>
It asks for each cachefile all of them with HEAD query
<rburton>
sounds like the fix would be to implement a session cache so it can pipeline the requests
<zhmylove>
I have dict() with key = sstatefile and value = mirror url. I want to share it with tasks inherited from sstate.bbclass in order to shor-circuit cache search
<zhmylove>
The problem is not in sessions. The problem is that Yocto iterates over the sstate mirror URLs one by one for each task
<zhmylove>
Given 6000 tasks and 156 servers it results into a 1 million of HEAD queries
<rburton>
156 servers?!
<zhmylove>
YES
<Slimey>
thats over 9000
<rburton>
erm why
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<zhmylove>
Our system is very distributed due to power loss issues. Moreover, all those 156 sstate cache servers sometimes keep their different versions of cache
<zhmylove>
BTW returning to my question. How can I share a data structure constructed before do_* tasks executed with them?
<rburton>
you can add something to d before any tasks run but each task has a copy-on-write clone of the data store so you need to be sneaky
<rburton>
i still say you're working around the wrong thing. don't have 156 separate sstate mirrors, or maybe bitbake should stop iterating when it finds a match
<rburton>
as you admit that your mirrors are not in sync, it sounds like your solution should be a proper distributed file store
<zhmylove>
Yeah, this optimization is clearly our future plan. Thank you Ross! And have a nice day!
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<rburton>
hm
<rburton>
ERROR: dbus-1.16.0-r0 do_package_qa: QA Issue: File /usr/lib/systemd/user/dbus.socket in package dbus-common contains reference to TMPDIR [buildpaths] <-- anyone seen that?
<rburton>
(mathieudb specifically ;)
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<khem>
Equinix is shutting down its operations with us on April 30, 2025. They have graciously supported us for almost 5 years, but all good things come to an end.