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<dsimic>
f_: thanks, and here a few more suggestions...
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<dsimic>
periods in the "latest stable release" and "latest release candidate" lines are redundant, because those aren't real sentences
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<dsimic>
the date could also be added to the "latest release candidate" lines
<dsimic>
s/lines/line/
<dsimic>
"Send emails to ..." should be replaced with "To post to the mailing list, send your email messages to ...", to make it read better
<dsimic>
"U-Boot has an IRC channel over on the <a>Libera.Chat</a> IRC network." should be replaced with "The IRC channel is on the <a>Libera.Chat</a> IRC network. Use the following parameters to join the chat:"
<dsimic>
"Port: <code>6667 / 6697 (TLS)</code>" should be replaced with "Ports: <code>6667</code> (plain) and <code>6697</code> (TLS)"
<dsimic>
"There are many ways to get involved in the U-Boot community:" should be replaced with "There are different ways to get involved in the U-Boot community, as described below.", to read better
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<dsimic>
the opening paragraph, starting with "Welcome to...", should be replaced with the following:
<dsimic>
...
<dsimic>
Das U-Boot, often shortened to U-Boot, is a free and open-source boot loader for various embedded devices, whose purpose is to perform various low-level hardware initialization tasks and boot the device's operating system kernel. U-Boot is loaded by the system ROM from a supported storage device, such as a microSD card or SPI flash, and the operating system kernel is loaded from a storage device supported
<dsimic>
by U-Boot on the particular system, such as a microSD card or eMMC chip. U-Boot also provides a command-line interface on the system console or serial port, which allows the user to interact with the boot process in various ways.
<dsimic>
<br />
<dsimic>
Often described as the universal boot loader, it is available for many architectures, including ARM, MIPS, PowerPC, RISC-V, x86 and x86_64.
<dsimic>
...
<dsimic>
also, please add a "<br />" between the opening paragraphs and the block that describes the latest release, etc.
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<dsimic>
or maybe "Often described as the universal boot loader, U-Boot is available for many architectures, including ARM, MIPS, PowerPC, RISC-V, x86 and x86_64." instead of what I sent above
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<f_>
wow
<f_>
dsimic: Thanks!!
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<dsimic>
f_: thank you :)
<dsimic>
please, let me know your thoughts about all those suggestions
<f_>
They're all very nice :)
<dsimic>
I'm glad that you like it :)
<dsimic>
maybe we could also add a link to the Wikipedia article? such as "See also the [Wikipedia U-Boot article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_U-Boot).", after "... and x86_64"
<f_>
Probably.
<dsimic>
great, please let me know when the changes are ready to be reviewed
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<f_>
Yeah sounds more accurate to me. :)
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<marex>
dsimic: why remove the 'primary' part ?
<marex>
dsimic: it is the first boot stage
<dsimic>
in the Wikipedia article? well, it doesn't make it more clear what U-Boot is, and the purpose of the opening paragraph in Wikipdia articles is to provide an easily readable summary
<dsimic>
also, "primary" isn't mentioned anywhere else in the article, which clashes with the concept of the opening sections providing summaries
<dsimic>
the article should describe further what "primary" means, but it doesn't do that
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<f_>
marex: AFAIK u-boot can be used as a secondary bootloader?
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<Clamor>
f_: u-boot can act as bootloader of any stage
<marex>
f_: thats the less common case
<marex>
f_: in general it is SPL (i.e. U-Boot), then sometimes something else, then U-Boot again
<f_>
marex: except on amlogic where it's amlogic BL2, then BL31 + SCP fw, then U-Boot :)
<f_>
Before erasing the eMMC on my set-top box I used to chainload mainline u-boot from the vendor u-boot.
<f_>
marex: but now on amlogic s905 it can be SPL->BL31/SCP-fw->U-Boot (didn't send patches yet)
<f_>
(still have to RE and port to S905X too)
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<f_>
marex: but yeah as Clamor mentionned u-boot can act as a bootloader of any stage, so "primary" isn't really accurate.
<f_>
But that's just my opinion.
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<Clamor>
f_: existing statement of low level setup without primary is not accurate as well
<f_>
probably
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<dsimic>
let's also keep in mind that to be 100% accurate, the opening paragraph would need to be much longer and convoluted
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<dsimic>
which would also kind of defeat the whole purpose of the opening paragraph; OTOH, describing what's primary and what isn't should be performed in the article body first, after which a brief summary may find its way into the opening paragraph
<dsimic>
introducing "primary" into the opening paragraph before describing it first in detail in the artcle body wouldn't be very helpful, if you agree
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<f_>
dsimic: done!
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<f_>
Added some <br/>s to make it more readable.
<f_>
Anything else? :)
<f_>
In the end, I'll send patches when I have time.
<f_>
(unless someone has got more suggestions to make)
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<alpernebbi>
f_: some space between paragraphs please
<alpernebbi>
using <p>paragraph<p/><p>paragraph</p> instead of <p>paragraph<br/>paragraph<p/> might be enough
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<diederik>
it would actually be (syntactically) better
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<f_>
ok
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<f_>
(to do later)
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<sjg1>
Tartarus: What should we do with boards not converted to DM_SERIAL and DM_I2C?
<sjg1>
Tartarus: Also there is WDT which only has two to be migrated: kmcent2, imx6qdl_icore_mmc
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<Tartarus>
WDT I think ends up being tricky due to what the Kconfig options do/don't imply, but maybe the first step is just posting an RFC patch that adjusts Kconfig to only support what's migrated, and see if Stefan agrees that we've got the logic side correct? Then we can figure out what boards don't build anymore and go from there.
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<Tartarus>
The SYS_I2C_LEGACY list is at least a lot shorter than the DM_SERIAL list
<Tartarus>
Probably some patches to force-migrate things which should Just Work, like mx6 family boards would be a reasonable starting point
<Tartarus>
(I took a peek at forcing WDT after I went and forced SCSI over and came away with neither WDT nor TIMER were easy "finish this up" migrations, I think there's complexity that the Makefile check misses? Or maybe it really is just I have a mental block on it due to the multitude of symbols, but in the end it's just those two platforms)
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<dsimic>
f_: thanks, and I like the horizontal lines as separators
<dsimic>
if you don't mind, here are a few more suggestions...
<dsimic>
"An IRC channel is on..." should be replaced with "The IRC channel is on...", because that the channel, not just one of many
<dsimic>
"Use the following parameters to chat:" should be replaced with "Use the following parameters to join the channel:" or "Use the following parameters in your IRC client:", because that's technically more correct, IMHO
<dsimic>
"Port: <code>6667 / 6697 (TLS)</code>" should be replaced with "Ports: <code>6667</code> (plain) and <code>6697</code> (TLS)", which I sent already, so please let me explain
<dsimic>
fixed-width font is to be used for parameters, exact values, etc., and in this case only the port numbers are the actual parameters, not the whole right-hand part of the line
<dsimic>
"ports" instead of "port" because there are two
<dsimic>
the opening paragraphs are good, we should just make them flow a bit better, by having it all formatted and reworded a bit like this: https://termbin.com/dh0t
<dsimic>
(please note the line breaks and the empty lines in the linked file)
<dsimic>
thank you once again!
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<sjg1>
Tartarus: OK thanks...it would be nice to do this...will see