10:53 <angry_vincent> wht are hor/ver -100/100 resize?

10:53 <angry_vincent> so that i unerstand

10:53 <angry_vincent> also left/right with same number

10:55 <angry_vincent> for example: riverctl map normal ${mod}+Mod1+Shift H resize horizontal -100

10:56 <angry_vincent> riverctl map normal ${mod}+Mod1+Shift L resize horizontal 100

11:33 <novakane> angry_vincent: that's the commands to resize/move floating windows

11:34 <angry_vincent> yes, i understand, i need to interpret -100 and 100 :)

11:40 <novakane> they are delta logical pixel number, if that's what you ask

11:40 <angry_vincent> i see, thanks

17:42 <Nulo> River just crashed while locked :(

17:42 <Nulo> https://0x0.st/ozTo.txt

19:18 <Grawp> Hello. Could anybody recommend me some alternative to kanshi for dynamic output management?

19:28 <leon-p> Grawp: maybe this? https://github.com/alex-courtis/way-displays

19:30 <leon-p> it shares its daemonic state with kanshi, but unlike kanshi it creates output layouts dynamicly instead of relying on the user to pre-configure them

19:32 <Grawp> leon-p Thx. I'll give it a try. Btw. I like kanshi's design/interface but I'm suffering from the same problem as in here https://todo.sr.ht/~emersion/kanshi/58 .

19:34 <leon-p> that could also be a compositor/wlroots bug, in which case a different output configuration thing won't really help, but it won't hurt to try

19:41 <gabm[m]> i experienced the same today.. after redocking the outputs were not reconfigured... i think the Problem is in River but it's too early to tell...

19:41 <gabm[m]> until yesterday i used sway and never had any problems with this. Now i switched to River but kept everything else the same (wlroots, kanshi, config) and the problem appeared.... however since I'm using wlroots-git it could have also been introduced these days (?)

20:54 <natris1979[m]> hey all, I noticed that the waybar integration with river tags mentions this concept of urgency for tags (see `man waybar-river-tags`). It appears to have something to do with wayland's XDG_ACTIVATION feature, but I don't know of a real world use case for this. Does anyone have an example of how this is used?

20:55 <natris1979[m]> actually now that I mention, this is probably better asked in the IRC channel for wayland

21:02 <novakane> nani8ot[m]: for example in foot, when I have a highlight in IRC or a mail in aerc it does set the tags urgent if it is not focused

21:02 <novakane> oops natris1979[m] sorry nani8ot[m]

21:04 <natris1979[m]> hmm I wonder if there is a way to trigger that from the raw shell. I could see something like `./long_running_thing.sh; make_this_tag_urgent` being super useful

21:06 <novakane> natris1979[m]: if you use foot you can try it with `sleep 2 && echo -e '\a'` for example, unfocused the windows and you'll see

21:13 <natris1979[m]> @novakane huh, doesn't seem to work. I thought maybe it was my terminal emulator (alacritty) didn't support it, but I installed foot and it doesn't work from there either

21:16 <novakane> hmm weird, you unfocused the window before the end of the sleep command?

21:17 <natris1979[m]> yup, switched to totally different tag

21:18 <novakane> natris1979[m]: ah wait you need [bell] urgent=yes in foot.ini

21:18 <natris1979[m]> ah

21:18 <novakane> https://git.sr.ht/~novakane/dotfiles/tree/main/item/.config/foot/foot.ini#L12

21:23 <natris1979[m]> novakane: yup! That did the trick. Now to see if I can find something similar in alacritty

21:23 <natris1979[m]> thanks!

21:24 <novakane> np, no idea if alacritty supports xdg_activation though

21:29 <natris1979[m]> novakane: lol. Of course. It was introduced with the version directly after the one I have

21:30 <natris1979[m]> had to build river from source, maybe I should just do that with alacritty too. (she swallowed the spider to eat the fly...)

21:31 <natris1979[m]> really, though its just interesting. I can wait

21:31 <novakane> haha yeah that's a classic, infinite loop

22:56 <elshize> novakane: oh, I did not realize you could set that urgent option in foot! neat.