<Evo2>
n8_: instead of using "riverctl spawn" for thins like swaybg you can just run them in the background by adding "&" to the end of the line.
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<ghostbuster>
Evo2: thank you, now that you mention it i see it in the man page
<Evo2>
ghostbuster: no problem. I had the exact same question when I started using river.
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<ghostbuster>
if anyone is looking for a good screenshot app, i am using: riverctl map normal None+Shift Print spawn "slurp | grim -g - ~/screenshots/$(date +'screenshot_%Y-%m-%d-%H%M%S.png')"
<ghostbuster>
or just use - as output and pipe to wl-copy
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<user181308142001>
Is there a protocol which allows one to get the dimensions of a given window? I was thinking river-layout, but it doesn't seem to have such an option atm. Is there a river layout manager which is capable of outputting the dimensions of the windows?
<user181308142001>
s/window/view/
<ifreund>
nope, not aware of anything that can provide that currently
<user181308142001>
I see, thanks Isaac
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<ifreund>
dnkl: did you happen to start on the wlroots fix for the foreign toplevel management output enter/leave fix?
<ifreund>
If not I'll probably do that today, seems wlroots 0.15.1 isn't too far out
<dnkl>
ifreund: nope, off skiing 🙂
<ifreund>
nice! have fun!
<dnkl>
ifreund: thanks! And thanks for working on this!
<leon-p>
ifreund: does homerow mods work well with funkier modifier combinations, like f.e. Super+Alt+Ctrl?
<ifreund>
leon-p: yeah, that's actually one of the reasons I switched to it
<ifreund>
stuff like that is much comfier when you don't have to contort your hand to reach all the key
<leon-p>
my thoughts exactly. I'll have to take a look then.
<ifreund>
I'm not sure if it's possible to implement outside of the keyboard firmware itself
<ifreund>
well, it's probably possible but I don't know if anyone's done it
<leon-p>
The firmware for older thinkpad keyboard can be flashed, so maybe
<leon-p>
I think it should be doable with XKB as well, but it would probably require doing everything from scratch
<leon-p>
I wonder if the 2022 edition will have a mention of this protocol, since it surpasses xscreensaver in theoretical security.
<Nulo>
ifreund: Will there be a way to force unlock if the lock program fails, e.g. by logging into a TTY?
<ifreund>
Nulo: that's compositor policy
<ifreund>
with the current river implementation one may switch ttys and manually start a new ext-session-lock client with the proper WAYLAND_DISPLAY for the session
<ifreund>
I believe the sway developers intend to expose something over their non-wayland I3 ipc to manually unlock
<ghostbuster>
anyone know how to bind caps lock to ctrl? in my sway config the equivalent syntax is xkb_options caps:ctrl_modifier
<novakane>
ghostbuster: with XKB_DEFAULT_OPTIONS, see river(1) man page
<ghostbuster>
can i set those in my init or do they need to be set before starting river?
<ifreund>
before starting river
<ghostbuster>
beauty, thank you
<tiosgz`>
congrats on ext_session_lock!
<tiosgz`>
may i ask about the motivation for f6b1632? i would expect only a single change in the init, not %s/$mod/Super/
<tiosgz`>
of course it is only an example init, but most new users are going to base theirs on it – and having primary mod hardcoded doesn't seem like the best idea to me
<tiosgz`>
(e.g. my kiwmi init decides based on output names, & when i need to test river in a nested session, i temporarily change the mod in the init)
<ifreund>
tiosgz`: I've seen too many users copy and paste lines from that file with the $mod to a terminal and run them without having $mod set...
<ifreund>
and global find/replace is trivial in any decent editor
<tiosgz`>
that makes sense, thanks!
<ifreund>
no problem!
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<leon-p>
I also think it reads a bit better
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<tiosgz`>
do you think you could suggest me something i could try my hand at to get somewhat familiar with the river codebase?
<tiosgz`>
(preferably not required very soon and not related to river-specific features)
<leon-p>
tiosgz`: you could try implementing some window command
<tiosgz`>
for example?
<leon-p>
we already have all we need, but implementing a random view stack command should give you a devent idea of how things work
<leon-p>
for example, maybe try creating a command that swaps the first and last window
<tiosgz`>
hmm, that seems quite river-specific to me
<leon-p>
well, I don't think there really is anything in river that is not river-specific.
<leon-p>
wlroots takes care of all the "generic" stuff for us
<tiosgz`>
i've wondered about #444 or #453, but those won't interact with the codebase much ig
<leon-p>
444 is probably a bit more involved than you think
<ifreund>
444 would be nice to have, but it's probably tricky
<leon-p>
someone started work on 453, but I am not sure how far they got. It's a fairly simple feature to implement though.
<ifreund>
either of those seem reasonable though tbh
<ifreund>
I neither is 100% clear to me how it should be done though
<leon-p>
or maybe find out what in the transaction system is blocking 399 from working nicely :P
<leon-p>
if you have a drawing tablet, then implementing support for that should be pretty straight-forward as well
<tiosgz`>
ok, thanks! i'll see if i can move with something
<tiosgz`>
haven't got a tablet
<ifreund>
also feel free to ask zig questions here or in #zig, It's my fault you can't just write C to contribute to river :D
<tiosgz`>
:D
<leon-p>
tiosgz`: don't worry about the tablet, I just hope someone will someday implement it, because I accidentally promised that I'll do it, but I never get around to it ^^
<tiosgz`>
ifreund: it's actually why i want to get more into river, plus sway is too complex i suppose
<norkki>
I've got a tablet but I don't know any programming :D
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<ifreund>
tiosgz`: cool :) Sway is a pretty old codebase and has gone through many refactorings, plus i3 is nowhere near simple to begin with
<novakane>
oh 444 would be cool to have for IME but it sure not as easy at it looks
<ifreund>
Keyboard.zig is mostly *really* old code from when I first started hacking on river
<ifreund>
at some point river was just a zig port of tinywl using @cImport()
<leon-p>
444 will probably be a bit easier with the window management protocol and window managers leasing keybinds.
<ifreund>
Evo2: Hey, sorry for taking a bit to get back to you about the packaging issues, but some fedora maintainers just got me back into this in #zig
<ifreund>
anyhow, I think things actually work fine if you set all of -Dtarget, -Dcpu, --sysroot, and --libc
<ifreund>
to know what to set --libc to, you can run `zig libc` and use the output as a template