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<solrize> zigbee is lower powered than wifi? i guess they have no bluetooth-only esp's
<solrize> https://www.espressif.com/en/news/ESP32_H2 heh yes it has zigbee and bluetooth
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<GenTooMan> solrize, higher speed requires different design, so likely it would be a cost consideration and process consideration.
<solrize> well they already have the existing higher speed ones, just a matter of tweaking the software
<solrize> i mean they could put zigbee into the esp32c3 if i'm not mistaken
<GenTooMan> zigbee is what 915MHz and 866MHz bands?
<solrize> i thought it was same as bluetooth hmm
<solrize> 915mhz and 2.4ghz in the US
<sorear> ISM bands...
<GenTooMan> yeah unfortunately 5G plans to use all ISM bands available so things are going to get messy.
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<solrize> oh noes
<solrize> crap
<solrize> i guess that is a done deal
<solrize> i didn't know about that. damn. sounds typical though
<solrize> 5g just means another few megabytes of ads and JS bloat with every tweet
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<GenTooMan> I think things went like this with 5G "ISM bands?" "Yes Industrial Scientific Medical" "Anyone can use them?" "Yes" "Why aren't we using them instead of buying spectrum?"
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<xentrac> GenTooMan: the great thing about this is that anyone can run their own 5G network!
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<GenTooMan> that would be an only upside. because of the excessive greed on their part ISM spectrum has become even more of a mess
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<xentrac> you say "mess", I say "freedom"
<xentrac> around here there's a lot of unregulated emissions in the 400-800 terahertz radio band as well. would you like to get rid of that as well?
<xentrac> there are areas on Earth that are very quiet in that frequency range, but where I live there's just a huge amount of noise there
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<dh`> if you use the wrong frequencies enough, sooner or later you'll observe pulses at around 650 terahertz
<xentrac> haha
<dh`> THE SPECTRUM PROTECTS ITSELF
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