04:01 <pablo_escoberg> @beneroth:  Thanks for the detailed answer, but I guess my question wasn't clear:  I have a test I think should work but doesn't (FWIW, I copied and pasted both arguments to `test` from the REPL to the command line in the REPL).  So I wanted to see what `test` was seeing and did `(debug `test)`.  But once I hit the breakpoint, I found code I

04:01 <pablo_escoberg> don't understand, nor do I understand how to check values.  The function is declared as `(de test ("Pat" . "Prg")` but from inside, I can't seem to get the values of `"Pat"` and `"Prg"`.  Hence my (poorly worded and now updated) question:  how do I get these values?  Also, just for my general knowledge, why are these not declared as just `Pat`

04:01 <pablo_escoberg> and `Prg`?

06:09 <abu[7]> Good morning pablo_escoberg!

06:10 <abu[7]> Yes, "Pat" and "Prg" are transients

06:10 <abu[7]> So they are equivalent to (private)

06:10 <abu[7]> You *can* access such symbols with 'loc' though

06:14 <abu[7]> (val (loc "Pat" test))

06:16 <abu[7]> > why are these not declared as just `Pat` : This is to protect them from conflicts

06:18 <abu[7]> (let Pat "foo" ... (test ... Pat ..)) then the outer 'Pat' would be overridden by 'Pat' inside 'test'

06:20 <abu[7]> See "Are there no problems caused by dynamic binding?" in the FAQ

07:07 <pablo_escoberg> Awesome.  Thanks for the pointers.