01:46 <pablo_escoberg> Skyjuice: If the above doesn't work, try ctrl-shift-delete.  Works in every graphical browser I know of.  Uncheck everything but "cache" and delete everything.

01:47 <pablo_escoberg> Abu:  It seems I can't access my Matrix account until I get back home on Saturday, so I'll be checking in here.

02:17 <skyjuice> @abu[7]:libera.chat Is it possible to call these hard reload commands with penti? I've tried both suggestions but no joy.

04:44 <abu[7]> skyjuice: It works here on Firefox. You'll remember the Penti->xdotool I gave you. There e have a line:

04:44 <abu[7]> ("r" (xkey "ctrl+shift+R")) # Reload

04:45 <abu[7]> So Ctrl-K plus R causes a reload including a cache clear

09:54 <tankf33der> hi all

09:54 <tankf33der> abu[7]

09:55 <tankf33der> i have symbols from grid from @lib/simul.l

09:56 <tankf33der> question: how is correctly destroy symbols a1,a2,a3 and so on from grid to create another grid ?

10:03 <tankf33der> is this concept is correct?

10:03 <tankf33der> http://pb1n.de/?9e4e52

10:45 <tankf33der> maybe just wipe is ok :/

10:46 <abu[7]> Later, I'm on a bicycle

10:46 <tankf33der> no hurry

11:21 <abu[7]> Now in a Cafe ;)

11:21 <abu[7]> The right symbols call is (symbols 'simul 'pico)

11:24 <abu[7]> To unintern the symbols, just 'zap' is enough

11:24 <abu[7]> Another way would be to use separate namespaces

11:25 <abu[7]> (symbols 'x 'simul 'pico) (grid ...)

11:25 <abu[7]> (symbols 'y 'simul 'pico) (grid ...)

11:26 <abu[7]> 'wipe' is not useful here, as it clears val and properties, but not the interned state

12:07 <tankf33der> Artice in wiki tells (symbols ‘pico ‘simul) is ok call

12:08 <tankf33der> https://picolisp.com/wiki/?symbolnamespaces

12:08 <tankf33der> I will change

12:08 <tankf33der> call order

12:09 <abu[7]> Great, thanks!

12:09 <abu[7]> Yes, the optimal namespace policy was not clear initially

12:10 <tankf33der> I am implementing hard task on grids — A* algorithm

12:11 <abu[7]> Interesting

12:11 <abu[7]> Sorry, we must drive on :)

12:11 <abu[7]> bbl

14:52 <skyjuice> <abu[7]> "The rest like numbers, lists, I..." <- Sorry, I don't recall. 

14:54 <skyjuice> <abu[7]> "("r" (xkey "ctrl+shift+R..." <- Is this keybinding set out of the box?

15:00 <skyjuice> If so how are you executing it in the browser? I've tried tapping the url bar to initiate Penti followed by CTRL + SHIFT + R

15:02 <skyjuice> I end up with "R" being input in the url bar but no reload

15:11 <abu[7]> Yes, "ctrl+shift+R" seems standard Firefox

15:11 <abu[7]> The xdotools prefix is Ctrl-K

15:12 <abu[7]> So ^K and r do the job

23:17 <skyjuice> I tried ^K + r" in a few different browsers including firefox. No page reload in any of them.