10:50 <YaseenTa> hi there is documented way to make router os in rust

11:05 <kazinsal> fraid not

11:07 <kazinsal> in general network core stuff is not well documented as far as osdev goes

11:07 <kazinsal> bit too niche

11:21 <immibis> well there won't be a specific tutorial on "how to make a router os in rust" but all the building blocks are there. How to make an OS in rust is probably a thing by now. How to make a router OS isn't, but that's just an OS that's a router, so you can figure that part out. How to make a router is a combination of building blocks that are well documented and often have open source implementations.

11:21 <GeDaMo> OpenWRT maybe?

11:21 <immibis> There's no single meaning of "a router" though. There are all sorts of routing protocols and design tradeoffs, so you have to have one or more use cases in mind.

11:22 <zid> Quick answer: No. Long answer: Noooooooooooooo

11:23 <kazinsal> packets go in packets go out

11:23 <kazinsal> what happens in the middle is an exercise to the reader

11:25 <Ermine> zid: very long answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

11:25 <bslsk05> ​www.youtube.com: - YouTube

11:28 <immibis> kazinsal precisely

11:31 <immibis> my first thought about "a router" is either some Cisco type of box or the bird2 nodes I run on dn42 (dn42 simulates the Internet so it's kind of the same thing but virtualized), but for other people it's a home router which has very different requirements. And the microwave routers whose firmware I worked on are different still (we outsourced the standard routing stuff but there were also radio specific features)

11:31 <Ermine> is there a tutorial on how to make os in python which will beat windows

11:31 <immibis> network core stuff is documented, just not in connection with osdev

11:33 <immibis> btw I do recommend joining dn42 if you want to learn isp level networking

11:34 <kazinsal> probably easier than my path of implementing a couple ISPs

12:44 <immibis> it's the same thing but less real

12:44 <immibis> and less useful

12:44 <immibis> and easy

16:57 <Ermine> vmware's pit emulation is probably also fucked

18:07 <heat> i've just ported sshd wooo

18:07 <nikolar> Now you can get hacked remotely

18:08 <heat> my dream

18:11 <Ermine> gj

18:15 <heat> i wish there was a refcount sanitizer