<kof673>
> what if a tram hits you tomorrow? well, if this is #1 priority you need to make your own hardware and firmware etc. :D not to be absolutist, but most things are far away from ever reaching that, intentionally. patents for one.
<kof673>
i always heard bus, so tram is interesting too, upgrade ;D
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<dinkelhacker_>
good morning
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<ring0_starr>
<Ermine> > intel is secondly a foundry --- separating manufacturing stuff into a subsidiary and going fabless seems like good idea
<ring0_starr>
ehh... remember AMD? they did this
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<Ermine>
i sid that
<Ermine>
said*
<ring0_starr>
fabs got subsidarized into globalfoundaries and then spun off, bought up in part by TSMC, and now i don't think amd has any stake in it anymore even. spinning off a company like that feels like a sure way to lose it
<kazinsal>
if intel can pull even a third of the turnaround that AMD did I'll be impressed
<ring0_starr>
how much of the turnaround had to do with subsidarizing their foundry?
<kazinsal>
sold off their foundries and hired some people who knew what the hell they were doing to produce a microarchitecture that wasn't a decade's worth of microwaved tuna
<kazinsal>
intel's more than a decade into microwaving their tuna
<ring0_starr>
yes, jim keller and friends. in other words the same ones who did K6
<ring0_starr>
does intel really have a technical problem though? what are their problems anyway?
<kazinsal>
well for one they're juicing their cores with too many volts stock to make the number go up
<kazinsal>
overvoltage electromigration is supposed to be the kind of thing that's catastrophic on the 5-7 year span, but stock juiced intel chips are seeing them in the desktop space in 18 months
<ring0_starr>
why do they overvolt them again? higher clocks?
<kazinsal>
yeah, it's all about boosting clocks for higher periods
<kazinsal>
the IPC of a 14th gen intel core is not that far off from a 10th gen intel core
<kazinsal>
the difference is they've shrunk the nodes and are using that to pour more voltage through to hit mid-5.x GHz
<kazinsal>
but at the cost of chips electromigrating themselves to death in 12-18 months while being within listed spec
<ring0_starr>
eugh
<kazinsal>
the limited turbo boost of a 4900K is 6.0 GHz
<kazinsal>
but it sucks down over 300 watts to do that
<kazinsal>
14900K*
<kazinsal>
intel has also gotten into the habit of listing their processors' TDPs with the base power
<kazinsal>
aka it's throttled so hard it's down to half its peak rated speed
<kazinsal>
so the "125W" 14900K actually has a "maximum turbo power" of 253W
<kazinsal>
but in practice it'll draw 300+ to sustain 5.9-6.0 GHz
<kazinsal>
it'll refuse to clock down until it hits 100 degrees C
<kazinsal>
at which point it's designed to clock down to 5.8 GHz
<kazinsal>
these things are going bang like popcorn for a reason
<ring0_starr>
everything else is going to shit anyway, why not cpus at this point
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<kazinsal>
my concern is that other things are going to get stressed past their breaking point
<kazinsal>
if my CPU explodes because of overcurrent, well, shit, what's happened to the power pins on my motherboard's CPU socket? what's happened to the EPS12V plug?
<kazinsal>
is the PSU going to be doing Bad Shit on other rails?
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<ring0_starr>
probably not, the VRMs will be the things to blow i would expect
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<zid>
CONFIG_HIF_BPF is cool
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<kazinsal>
zid: lxr shows nothing for CONFIG_HIF_BPF. what do?