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<sskras>
heat, you wrote:
<sskras>
> UEFI has no architecture besides "uefi driver" and "uefi application"
<sskras>
That might be true only when you see it as an UEFI user or when seeking for the high-level design.
<sskras>
Meanwhile I am trying to look from the point of its' internal mechanisms / graph of switching of the possible states / internal control and data flow / surface to attack / low-level design.
<bslsk05>
igor-blue.github.io: In-depth dive into the security features of the Intel/Windows platform secure boot process - Igor’s Blog
<sskras>
The way the UEFI needs to interact with the other parts of the rest of PC architectural madness (ITH, IOSF, CSME, TPM, PCRs, DRTM, TXT, IRBR, PPAM) is just ... unjustifiable IMO. It's overengineered to say the least.
<bslsk05>
superuser.com: security - How to disable or remove Intel SMM? - Super User
<sskras>
Be it my will, such modern x86 idiosyncrasies would just die a quick death.
<sskras>
Please excuse me the lengthy response. Extreme conditions demand extreme responses, as an old song says. :)
<sskras>
So no, to me UEFI has a _lot_ of cruft in it besides to "uefi driver" and "uefi application" :P
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<kof673>
i am not a mod, but pastebin maybe. also......Brandolini's law :D not taking a side here :D
<sskras>
kof673: good idea, I am going to use IRCcloud client's feature for posting long text as a linked snippet in future. Although I doubt any other OSDev topic could trigger me in such way :)
<kof673>
well it was more formatting, in a plaintext file, make a grievances list 1) ... 2) ... 3) ...
<kof673>
and then, can just link it in the future / update/etc.
<kof673>
also prevents strawmen/etc. to have a list you can refer to :D
* kof673
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<geist>
oh huh. new virtio 1.3 spec
<geist>
didn't notice that
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<heat>
sskras, all/the vast majority of those are either implementation problems or UEFI PI problems
<heat>
believe me, i know how shit tianocore/IBVs can be, but that's not a EFI spec problem, nor is it something you need to act upon from the OS's side
<mjg>
EY
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<mjg>
so luller
<mjg>
i have openbsd installed, it came with a 2.9G partition for /usr/src
<mjg>
git clone does not fit there
<mjg>
:D
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<Ermine>
riir'd tianocore when
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<heat_>
Ermine, whose dick do i need to suck for that to happen
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<Ermine>
unhinged!
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<mjg>
may i suggest this kind of lang gets toned down
<mjg>
if taking dumps on various codebases is in poor taste, remarks like the above should be considered doubly so
<mjg>
cc geist
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