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sham1>
We should just let Google and the like to break the ABI, as a treat. Especially if it makes the language less pessimal
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geist>
drinking game! pessimal!
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Ermine>
heat: you were going to apply for linaro, were you? Arguably the better option
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mjg>
there is an #osdev channel on oftc, with 10 people
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mjg>
i suggest we all go there
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Ermine>
hello mjg, why would we
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heat>
because this channel is lame
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heat>
and that channel RULES
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zid>
It's lame because we let heat in, though, so I don't think you moving will help it
<
Mondenkind>
oftc? isn't that where they discuss BEEESSDEE?
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mjg>
bsd is not a system, despite 's' in it
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mjg>
besides, i don't think you noticed heat is the only person who cares about it
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mjg>
whether taking jabs or not
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heat>
oh yes the great mjg has never jabbed a ""bsd"" system before
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Mondenkind>
so says well-known freebsd developer mjg
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mjg>
dude you are bringing up stuff from before the fall of the soviet union
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mjg>
i'm talking about events from this and last year
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mjg>
the only os i bring up is SOLARIS
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vdamewood>
Solaris has no where to go but up.
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mjg>
up Larry's arse
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heat>
>Solaris has no where to go
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mjg>
he is sayin' it's at the bottom
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Ermine>
> bsd engineeting ethos
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kazinsal>
i like the distribution of softwares from berkeley
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heat>
bsd engineering ethos is using gnu software, minix engineering ethos is using bsd software
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mjg>
let me tell you what onyx engineering ethos is: copying linux
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mjg>
did you change your middle name to linus yet
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heat>
no that'd be pretty weird
<
kazinsal>
gnu engineering ethos is screaming at proprietary software developers until your donathon comes up with enough money for your rent
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mjg>
are you shitting on drepper?
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mjg>
huh check out big brain on mount:
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mjg>
exit_group(0) = ?
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mjg>
i wonder tf, but i'm too afraid to check
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heat>
isn't that what all your benchmarks do
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heat>
"uhhhhh linux is technically pessimal when doing dup()+close() in a tight loop in 80 CPUs" 🤓
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mjg>
we have been over this at least 3 times
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mjg>
are you a twitter user
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heat>
i use myspace
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Ermine>
mykernalspace
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Ermine>
or myuserspace
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zid>
heat: mjg never benchmarks anything that does any actual work
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zid>
because doing actual work on a bsd machine is futile
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zid>
so he has to just benchmark syscalls like dup close
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heat>
learnbchs.org
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bslsk05>
learnbchs.org: BCHS: BSD, C, httpd, SQLite
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zid>
does bchs have mod_rewrite
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heat>
what's mod_rewrite
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zid>
heat have you never installed a webserver? :o
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zid>
that's like not knowing what malloc is just because you tend to write rust
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heat>
"The mod_rewrite module uses a rule-based rewriting engine, based on a PCRE regular-expression parser"
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zid>
regexing your URIs
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heat>
sounds like you can just use C regex, ggez, ok heat@
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zid>
but how do you take the request, heat
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zid>
you need someone to run the right cgi
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Ermine>
better than lighttpd's bespoke regex syntax
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zid>
like, I do it to rewrite /meow to /cgi-bin/meow.pl
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heat>
you're making me see if they can do this and i hate you for it
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mjg>
but i bench dup close on linux :(
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heat>
yes you can rewrite paths in openbsd httpd
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zid>
nice, can do I env vars too?
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zid>
rewrite_rule "meow" "cgi-bin/meow.pl" E=NOHAX is what my .htaccess looks like
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zid>
it sets NOHAX in getenv() so that I can behave differently if the rewrite happened vsnot
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heat>
doesnt look like it
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zid>
useless program
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mjg>
3/4 of all anime is served from bchs
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heat>
what you want is: "cgi-bin/meow.sh": "#!/bin/sh\n E=NOHAX exec cgi-bin/meow.pl"
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heat>
yes, it's slow, but you
*are* using openbsd httpd
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zid>
so it's probably still way faster than linux and apache
<
zid>
cus it's been BENCHMARKED
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heat>
nothing in the openbsd cvs repo is fast or has ever been fast
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zid>
we know precisely how fast it isn't though!
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heat>
if they accidentally write something fast they'll add a sleep(2) for good measure
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mjg>
if they accidentally write something fast they submit to gnu folk under a pseudonym
<
mjg>
they think it's a prank
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heat>
gnu httpd where
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zid>
is it mu-texen or mutex-en
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heat>
i think it's mu-texen?
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heat>
i'm not a native speaker, but it sounds like the more natural pronounciation
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zid>
nikolar ran out of me
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zid>
I bet he'sthinking of other women
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heat>
it should be mu-texan because YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW PARTNER
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heat>
that's not very german of you
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mjg>
bunch of ASSHOLEN
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zid>
more like multifeces
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bslsk05>
lore.kernel.org: Re: Thread safety of coroutine-sigaltstack - Laszlo Ersek
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mjg>
> ... I've tried to see if POSIX says anything on signals being delivered
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mjg>
with mutexen held.
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mjg>
is that what heat is reading?
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bslsk05>
lore.kernel.org: mutexen - search results
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heat>
no, it wasn't on lore
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gog>
mutual exclusion is latin-derived therefore so should be its abbreviation
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zid>
mutumn exclusionari
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heat>
yeah i like that option if we go for latin
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zid>
what I wanna know
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zid>
is how these people went around speaking latin all day
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zid>
without summoning demons and shit left and right
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heat>
satan doesn't speak vulgar latin
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nikolapdp>
are you still tetrising zid
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nikolapdp>
wouldn't it be muteces
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heat>
hi what historical empire are we going over tonight
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mjg>
i took the feedback under advisement and i'm going to stick with mutexEN
<
mjg>
thank you for constructive discussion
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gog>
i reject this convention entirely and my facts and logic about it will be proven right with time
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mjg>
so i just got a call from ben shapiro
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mjg>
he said mutices are sexist
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zid>
nikolapdp ignoring mee
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heat>
i took a page out of abby shapiro's book and i'm now calling myself classically heat
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gog>
sometimes facts and logic is sexist
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mjg>
lock contention DESTROYED by facts and logic
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gog>
i don't make the laws of nature
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nikolapdp>
zid this is slander
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nikolapdp>
i will not stand for it
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Ermine>
abby shapiro?
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gog>
what i'm really trying to say here is: i'm not owned
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mjg>
are you the person who used to be a reddit mod?
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gog>
please don't make me talk about that time of my life
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gog>
that was some of the darkest depression i ever experienced
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nikolapdp>
reddit does do that to people
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mjg>
have you ever been to r/osdevers_irc?
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mjg>
fucking hellholle
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gog>
i haven't used reddit in many years
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Ermine>
irc.reddit.com
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gog>
reddit is designed to drag sad losers into the pettiest shit
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mjg>
that's an understatement of the quarter
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gog>
i was a very sad loser
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gog>
the saddest fucking loser in the world
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mjg>
the only subs which are worth anything are making fun of other subs
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mjg>
except it does not last and they turn into total crappers
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heat>
gog you are the happiest winner of the entire universe
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heat>
keep winning
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mjg>
someone stated there is a criticall mass of people a sub can have before it goes to shit
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mjg>
and it is not a big number
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heat>
circlejerk subs have lost quality over time
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mjg>
heat: 's what i'm saying
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gog>
it's because the most dedicated posters are the ones who are most invested into the platform with the karma points and such
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mjg>
i fully confess i liked r/bookscirclejerk, even posted a few times before deleting my account
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gog>
i posted so much
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gog>
i had three accounts over time because of the first time i tried to quit
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gog>
and the second
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gog>
third time stuck
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nikolapdp>
i've only ever had one reddit accoutn
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mjg>
tbh i don't know if messing with efi is an upgrade
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nikolapdp>
it just got randomly deleted
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nikolapdp>
haven't had one ever since
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mjg>
good for you man
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gog>
i'm not even messing with efi
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heat>
gog think of the positives
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mjg>
again i doon't know if that's healthy
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heat>
you could be a EFIDEV instead
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heat>
and that's a terminal condition
<
bslsk05>
adachristine.is: where are you going?
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mjg>
is it lynx-friendly?
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mjg>
you made the cat?
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acidx>
good website
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mjg>
is that standard compliant html?
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heat>
that page has javascript btw
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heat>
literally how
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mjg>
i don't see js
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GeDaMo>
"This page intentionally left cat"
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heat>
oh wait it was injected by one of my extensions
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mjg>
< Server: nginx/1.18.0 (Ubuntu)
<
mjg>
gog: i would replace the title with that microsoft slogan
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heat>
why are you not using arch btw
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mjg>
past that 9/10
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gog>
because the arch image they have doesn't work right
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heat>
arch never breaks
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gog>
it's not arch it's the image they made
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nikolapdp>
gog very advance can confirm, arch never break
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heat>
you don't use arch nikolapdp
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heat>
you use artix
<
heat>
the B in BSD stands for broken
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gog>
i asked my cat and he said he wanted to be hosted on linux
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nikolapdp>
heat correction, artix never breaks
<
acidx>
tuxedo cats kinda look like penguins, yes
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mjg>
you convinced me to do some webdev
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gog>
it's to blend in while hunting them
<
mjg>
i'm a html programmer from now on
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heat>
did you know HTML is LOCKLESS
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gog>
congratulation
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nikolapdp>
what's your newest projetc mjg
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nikolapdp>
in html
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mjg>
i'm working on my website
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heat>
are you running it on BCHS
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mjg>
it's going to be a photo of a sofa without a cat
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mjg>
heat: one and only
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nikolapdp>
revolutionary
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mjg>
i'm thinking "there is nothing here, let alone a comfy cat"
<
mjg>
would that work? anyone with WEBDEV chops can comment
<
mjg>
(fuck cats btw)
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nikolapdp>
what's wrong with cats
<
mjg>
ask any cat owner
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gog>
damn dude sorry
<
mjg>
pieces of shit break more stuff than red hat maintainers
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nikolapdp>
henlo sham1
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sham1>
Oh, I shouldn't forget
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sham1>
(format t "Hello heat~%")
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zid>
heat find out why nikolar is shy and won't talk
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heat_>
(why-shy nikolar)
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nikolapdp>
are we lisping now
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heat_>
(say "i'm actually under 60 and as such i don't know lisp")
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sham1>
I mean, so am I
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sham1>
But I know it. So what's your excuse?
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heat_>
i don't use emacs
<
klange>
shortage of parens
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nortti>
say[klange; finally a time for reëmergence of m-expressions then]
<
klange>
My not-lisp has recently gained many useful features like insertion-ordered dicts and an implementation of powersort.
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heat_>
not-python is so passé, better write a not-lisp like its 1980
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heat_>
r/linux is the 9th circle of hell
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