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<kof673> > Sounds to me like you'd want some strategy pattern > Strategy is a behavioral design pattern that lets you define a family of algorithms
<kof673> in light of MVC-ish...that seems the same to me
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<kof673> i would pseudo-OO apply that to any and every "class" ....algorithm is surely an internal detail, need to know basis (which i might expose knowledge of as much as possible in a duck-like fashion they can query, so callers have more info., but nevertheless)
<kof673> if a class can't change it's algorithm internally used to implement whatever, wth is OO encapsulation in the first place, he asked? </OO Mel>
<kof673> i just call that a "class" lol
<kof673> *"interface" maybe a better word
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<kof673> in duckland, i'm not sure the distinction :D
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<mcrod> hi
<mcrod> i need help with linker scripts :(
<mcrod> don't worry, this time it's GNU ld
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<mcrod> well maybe i don't need help yert
<mcrod> yet
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<Mutabah> mcrod: Well, if you do, post your question instead of asking :)
<mcrod> yeah yeah i know the rules :(
<Mutabah> sorry, didn't mean it too harshly
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<zid> Is the answer $(wildcard:.wav=.o)
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<mcrod> no
<zid> I must be tuned to the wrong frequency
<gog> meow
<zid> nikolar made me do a CTF
<zid> so I am beating his entire team by myself
<zid> FROCED me
<nikolapdp> hey i am barely doing anything
<mcrod> note this is for cortex-m3
<mcrod> basically, I know that .text has to be aligned on a 4-byte boundary
<mcrod> but I don't think I need the __vector_table_start__, the . should just be the current position of the section bullshit?
<nikolapdp> [1;3
<zid> why do we know if you do or don't need that symbol?
<zid> If you need to reference the contents of .isr_vector, it seems very useful
<mcrod> then yes i do
<mcrod> ok
<mcrod> i can't even find documentation on the dot
<mcrod> .
<mcrod> it definitely seems like "this is your current position in the section after you've fucked around"
<zid> . is current position
<mcrod> of course. of course that would be obvious.
<mcrod> ok
<bslsk05> ​ftp.gnu.org: Using LD, the GNU linker - Command Language
<zid> and it's thing.. 4? on the language description
<zid> The special linker variable dot
<mcrod> wonderful
<Ermine> gog: may I pet you
<mcrod> gog can you hit me
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<gog> Ermine: yes
<gog> mcrod: no
<mcrod> :(
<mcrod> may i pet you instead
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* Ermine pets gog
* gog prr
<gog> mcrod: yes
* mcrod pets gog
* gog prr
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<gorgonical> Thursday blues, right on schedule
<gog> :<
<gorgonical> When does the weather get good up there gog
<gorgonical> I expect it's still pretty cold lol
<gog> actually the first half of this week we had nice weather
<gog> not warm, but above freezing and sunny
<gog> today is cold and rainy
<gorgonical> I remember even in july warm meant like 55 to 60. It's very nice to get that breath of fresh, warmer air finally after a long winter
<gog> yeah that's what i'm waiting for
<gog> anyhow time to go home
<gog> bbiab
<heat_> gog bazel
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<heat_> sadness
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<heat> gog bazel
<gog> bazel
<pounce> it was such nice weather for fr!!
<pounce> snowing, but still nice >_>
<gorgonical> snowing in france?
<pounce> i live near gog
<gorgonical> oh
<sham1> heat bezel
<heat> sham1 makefile
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<gog> yes
<gog> pounce and i are irl bff's now
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<pounce> true
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<geist> d'aww
<zid> pencilcases
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<heat> "If a large ("high order") block of memory is not available when needed, something will fail and yet another user will start to consider switching to BSD"
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<heat> nooooooooooooooooooooo
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<sham1> Good
<gog> i'm switching to BSD now
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<gog> does steam work on openbsd
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<sham1> Steam hardly works even in platforms where it's supported
<sham1> Like totally seriously, how hard is it to make the program follow basic window management stuff. valve
<heat> steam works fine
<heat> on normal systems
<heat> on openbsd it probably blows up your computer
<mcrod> i'm surprised anything is alive on iceland considering how often shit blows up
<sham1> My fedora install is a totally normal system and steam is just jank
<heat> steam usually works fine here
<bslsk05> ​i.imgur.com <no title>
<sham1> heat: oh it works, alright, until it starts ignoring the window manager and other similar stuff
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<zid> gog: Remember, when life gives you pants
<zid> shit them
<heat> sham1, idk what you mean with "ignoring the window manager"
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<bslsk05> ​github.com: Cannot interact with Steam window using Window Maker · Issue #4607 · ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux · GitHub
<sham1> And that's not the only one
<heat> oh i use kde
<heat> not <obscure window manager>
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<gog> i use arch btw
<zid> GOG USES ARCH EVERYBODY
<heat> i've used kde, xfce, gnome without issues
<sham1> Well if the Steam client wasn't a piece of shit, it would just work in <obscure window manager>
<heat> gog, no you don't, you use manjaro
<gog> zid: i'm shidding and farding
<gog> heat: i'm using arch now btw
<heat> WHAT
<heat> GOG ARCH LINUX??
<sham1> gog linux
<gog> heat i was using archlinux when you were still a baby
<gog> before it was uncool
<sham1> Was it ever not uncool?
<pounce> i thought heat was a boomer
<gog> heat is a little baby
<pounce> bc they were in this channel b4 me
<sham1> pounce: he's the exact opposite. He's a zoomer
<pounce> two sides of the same coin
<gog> fr fr no cap
<zid> heat is sperm as hell
<heat> skibidi toilet
<gog> heat i lied
<gog> i'm still using manjaro
<gog> and i'm terrified to update because i keep hearing about people having problems
<heat> lmfao
<heat> is it the kde6 update?
<gog> no
<gog> that's in testing i think
<heat> not yet? smh manjaro is too slow
<gog> yeah they wait two weeks just to be extra sure it's stable
<heat> manjaro has a testing? i thought arch was manjaro's testing for the most part
<sham1> I use fedora btw
<pounce> have you tried updating 750 packages at once?
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<pounce> you will not regret 750 packages all at once
<gog> i have about 700 packages waiting to update
<pounce> get them straight from the repos
<sham1> This is why you need offline updates
<sham1> Just saying
<gog> also discord is out of date
<gog> for like 4 days now
<gog> can't start it, have to use it in browser
<heat> lmfao
<gog> 692 packages
<gog> jesus
<gog> aight i'm gonna do it y'all
<zid> emerge --sync
<zid> emerge -DuNpv @world says... gog is out of date
<gog> i haven't used gentoo in more than 10 years
<gog> i have a life now
<heat> pacstrap -K /mnt base linux linux-firmware && arch-chroot /mnt
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<sham1> > linux
<sham1> ABSOLUTELY PROPRIETARY
<sham1> linux-libre is where it's at
<heat> software with libre in the name usability challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]
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<sham1> [POSSIBLE]
<heat> name one
<sham1> libreoffice
<heat> lmfao
<mcrod> god
<mcrod> i'm so close to getting this working
<mcrod> and by I, I mean with 98% of heat's help
<heat> np sweetie
<mcrod> but
<mcrod> i don't know wtf is going on
<mcrod> ugh
<sham1> heat: now you might say that libreoffice is unusable. But I'd say that it's just as usable as Microsoft Office
<sham1> xd
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<sham1> gog down!@
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<Mondenkind> upgog
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<heat> sham1, microsoft office is more usable and google docs is even better
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<heat> ever since google docs i've had 0 desire for microsoft office or libreoffice or openoffice
<zid> * ../openssl-3.0.13/crypto/bn/rsaz_exp_x2.c:500:16: warning: iteration 19 invokes undefined behavior [-Waggressive-loop-optimizations]
<zid> openssl doing openssl things
<sham1> heat: I've had 0 desire for any of them for quite a while now
<bslsk05> ​github.com: -Waggressive-loop-optimizations UB warning in to_words52 on 3.0.x, but not 3.1.x/master · Issue #21088 · openssl/openssl · GitHub
<zid> if the compiler is worried, I am worried
<zid> openssl loves worrisome code
<sham1> OpenSSL loves undefined behaviour
<heat> sham1 are you using libressl too
<sham1> No
<heat> good choice
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