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<zid>
does anything even grow that tall in iceland gog
<gog>
wouldn't you like to know
<zid>
You can't play golf in iceland because while you can grow a nice green, you can't grow a fairway
<gog>
i don't care about golf anyway
<zid>
The hazards are incredible though
<zid>
lava boulders either side
<Ermine>
I don't want to lose golf balls in lava
<zid>
It's like losing them in water but way more fun
<Ermine>
At least you can get them back from water
<Ermine>
Theoretically
<Ermine>
Anyway, Iceland is nice for other reasons
<gog>
niceland
<gog>
næsland
<zid>
If you're getting 50p golfballs back from the water, you can't afford golf
<gog>
i don't want to afford golf
<zid>
Being able to afford golf would be an envious financial situation
<gog>
my income says i'm middle class. my housing expenses make me poor
<zid>
Right, because in order to golf you need to be able to afford a house that can fit an entire golf club into
<zid>
that's a significant financial burden
<zid>
you can*
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<jimbzy>
Golf isn't that expensive.
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<Ermine>
I hate stuff being wasted
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<heat>
jimbzy, i don't play golf but it's probably like tennis
<heat>
super wide price range
<jimbzy>
Yeah
<heat>
you can get a 300 euro racquet or a 20 euro one
<heat>
where most people are not even physically ready for a 300 euro racquet anyway
<FireFly>
if I colud afford golf I still wouldn't golf :p
<heat>
yes golf is cringe
<gog>
yes
<gog>
i went golfing once and felt very cringe
<FireFly>
actually idk I might technically be able to afford golf but I'd rather not
<FireFly>
I'll stick to golf (wii sports)
<FireFly>
or golf (mini) occasionally I guess
<heat>
is golf more cringe than baseball?
<FireFly>
or golf (code)
<gog>
yes
<gog>
baseball games are actually fun to attend in person
<heat>
golf < baseball < american handegg < basketball < rugby < football
<FireFly>
I haven't attended a baseball game, but similar batting sports are like, fine
<heat>
</discussion>
<jimbzy>
Pretty much. When I started playing golf I built a simple 4 club set and that's all I needed for my skill level. I had a 5W, an 8i, a 50 degree wedge and a putter.
<FireFly>
I did attend an ameriacn football game once and uh didn't really get it
<sakasama>
The only fun spectator sport is curling.
* FireFly
curls up
<heat>
FireFly, apparently they say the fun side is the tactics and everything happening in the background
<heat>
i just think it's cringe
<Ermine>
handball is cringiest of them all
<heat>
no
<Ermine>
yes
<heat>
maybe between handegg and basketball
<heat>
it's cringier than basketball but still far less cringe than the others
<heat>
AND very european
<FireFly>
heat: yeah idk maybe it's the kinda sport one could enjoy with sufficient background knowledge, but to the uninitiated it was just constant pauses and not understanding the rules or mechanics
<Ermine>
The real fun is ice hockey
<jimbzy>
I like golf because you can play it solo.
<heat>
i wanna play golf with charles barkley and donald trump
<heat>
most nightmare blunt rotation you'll ever find
<jimbzy>
Hah
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<jimbzy>
I used to go to the local par 3/driving range and play between classes in college.
<jimbzy>
It was like $5 for a bucket of balls, or like $20 for 9 holes and a cart. I never actually kept score, but it was still fun.
<zid>
yea driving range is fun
<zid>
real golf is spensive, course maint is spensive, you lose all the balls, need a full set of golf-bats
<zid>
etc
<jimbzy>
To me, "winning" is not running out of balls.
<jimbzy>
zid, I used to drive my brother crazy when we'd play. He had a full set of Ping clubs and I'd go out with my limited set of knock-offs.
<jimbzy>
Sometimes I'd just use one.
<heat>
THINE SHIT SKILLS SHALL NOT DESERVE MY CLUBS
<zid>
3 clubs covers 90% of the range, more just make it easier
<jimbzy>
Yep.
<jimbzy>
I figured I could drive the ball into the woods or loft it into the woods ;)
<zid>
hehe
<zid>
I wanna go driving range with a proper driver
<zid>
we just had random irons we found in the woods and paid a couple of quid for balls to whack
<heat>
my knee's fucked, i should go to the doctor
<heat>
i'll still play through injury because i'm highly based
<zid>
did you pretend you're a footballer again
<heat>
no
<jimbzy>
I really liked my Hireko clubs.
<jimbzy>
Affordable and functional.
<heat>
i didn't do shit for 2 weeks, first time out i jogged for a bit and started feeling some pain right under my knee. might be a tendon
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<zid>
you were JOGGING? fuck me
<zid>
no wonder your knees are broken
<zid>
worst thing you could possibly do
<gog>
i didn't go to the gym today :(
<heat>
a true irc user never leaves his chair
<gog>
we spent the better part of 4 days trying to figure out why shit was fucked. i worked labor day because of it. we finally fixed it today. we were being cyberattacked and our sales app was falling over from it immediately
<heat>
you did what now
<heat>
working on labor day?
<gog>
i worked on labor day
<gog>
yes i know
<zid>
sick, you get time and a half for that?
<gog>
no i'm salary
<zid>
so why did you go in
<gog>
but my boss said i could fuck off for a day no questions
<heat>
gog praises big capital like a good american
<zid>
ah you swapped it
<zid>
You should have swapped it for 2 days
<zid>
that were less busy
<gog>
becuse there was nobody else and shit was absolutely fucked
<zid>
so you had even MORE leverage :o
<zid>
Should have gotten a week.
<heat>
TOUGH SHIT BITCH IM ENJOYING MY SOCIALISTEST HOLIDAY
<heat>
LABOR DAY MOTHERFUCEKERS!
<zid>
"oh that's very sad for you" is the correct response if a boss tries to say he's short staffed on your day off :P
<gog>
i didn't do it because i was asked, i did it because i care about shit
<heat>
100% dedication gog
<zid>
you should be paid to care about it
<zid>
not actually care about it
<gog>
i am paid to care about it
<gog>
and i still have leverage
<zid>
leverage is momentary
<heat>
gog, have u considered using cloudflare
<gog>
shit i'm gonna gun for another raise behind it
<heat>
cuz u know, cyberattacked?
<zid>
I thought cloudflare died
<gog>
i fixed the issue causing the thing to fail, we're using AWF now
<gog>
so the attack is dead
<heat>
yeah cloudflare passed away this april. RIP
<heat>
gog, what's AWF?
<zid>
They were hosting naughty websites and lots of people were dropping them when their finances were already bad, I heard
<zid>
amazon web fireball Lv. 1
<heat>
zid, naw they're fine
<zid>
They got that dark money
<heat>
there was a hit cuz crisis, but everyone took that hit
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<gog>
heat: web request filtering
<heat>
gog, is that an amazon thing? sounds like an amazon thing
<gog>
it is
<gog>
it's amaz-ing
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<heat>
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<heat>
you mean WAF
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<sham1>
Wait, cloudflare died?
<Bitweasil>
Not as far as I know...
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* geist
yawns
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<zid>
new tom7 vid time
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<zid>
It's kinda clever, basically implements illegal math ops by abusing the difference between math and computers
<zid>
like implementing if(a == 4) return 1; else return 0; using only +
<bslsk05>
www.phoronix.com: Fedora Onyx Aims To Be A New Fedora Linux Immutable Variant - Phoronix
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<heat>
Ermine, that's a win?
<sham1>
Fedora already has immutable variants. What does this bring over CoreOS and Silverblue/Kinoite
<sham1>
Oh, Budgie
<heat>
checkmate
<heat>
new variant for each DE
<sham1>
Can't wait for the immutable i3 spin
<heat>
Fedora Fuchsia for i3
<heat>
Fedora Sortix for the terminal version
<heat>
Fedora Onyx for the one that sucks
<Ermine>
I guess it is baseod on Onyx
<sham1>
Onyx is not Linux
<heat>
yes that's exactly why it sucks
<mrvn>
Why does US have miles-per-gallon when their cars have 4-liter engines?
<sham1>
A non-recursive non-acronym
<Ermine>
heat: you're underestimating yourself
<mrvn>
.oO(1L of pepsi, 5g of fat per 100g in food, 10cc of medicine, cent/dime/dolar/10$/100$. yeah, US is really imperial)
* mrvn
should stop watching youtube, I'm learning stuff.
<sham1>
Learning on YouTube‽
<sham1>
What is this madness
<mrvn>
right.
<mrvn>
The AI is gone mad and stopped suggesting kitty videos.
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<mrvn>
That's what you get running a AI on a dozend cores.
<sham1>
YouTube went to shit after the AI took over
* mrvn
wants a CPU with a bakers dozend of cores.
<sham1>
Seems to have been trained with quite perverse incentives
<heat>
wdym AI presidents isn't legit
<sham1>
>.>
<mrvn>
heat: AI and robotics has come a long way. They now even have dark skin tones.
<heat>
if I get another short of obama biden and trump talking shit with ben shapiro popping up near the end I swear to god I will fucking swipe right and get another one
<sham1>
Well if you're swiping right, you're clearly approving of it
<sham1>
I like those shorts too
<sham1>
But yeah, the YouTube algorithm is just very odd with the priorities it was trained with
<sham1>
Well, priorities as far as we understand them outside of the googleplex
<heat>
is that your strategy for making my kernel the least bad piece of software in the distro :v
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<sham1>
What's wrong with debian
<heat>
i have a longstanding dislike for debian due to its anti-userness and "stability" meaning permanently broken packages until the next release
<heat>
also trying to understand the debian build system and trying to install crap for sid is something I do not want to go into again
<heat>
s/for/from/
<heat>
i know this sounds like "hurr durr arch lonix" but rolling release distros have been the most stable distros I've ever used
<nikolar>
I'm on a rolling release distro and can confirm
<zid>
That's because they *have* to integration test the packages :P
<zid>
monolithic releases add shit to a pile then work down a bug queue
<zid>
and then the branch is 6 months out of date by the time they're done and fixes are already in mainline but not compatible with the other fixes they tried to queue against other packages blah blah blah
<zid>
rolling distro is more like "make sure it fast forwards onto master"
<zid>
mono is like "Merge these 40 branches in 6 months time"
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<sham1>
Well Fedora for example keeps up just fine even though it definitely has point releases
<sham1>
Of course it has a cadence at 2 releases a year
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<zid>
It's obviously not impossible, people develop software like that all the time
<zid>
it's just a lot harder
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