<InPhase>
$1000 for multicolor seems steep. But also I'm very bothered by Prusa's dysfunctional website. Scrolling doesn't even work right.
<stealth_>
website seems fine to me
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<kintel>
What are people's opinion on minimum required OpenGL version?
<kintel>
A while back we disabled preview support for OpenGL 1.2, effectively requiring OpenGL 2.0 to get previews, but OpenSCAD itself still works using OpenGL 1.2
<kintel>
I'm considering kicking out the last of that legacy and require OpenGL 2.0 going forward. Anyone know if we still have use-cases requiring OpenGL 1.x?
<stealth_>
"glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version" give me "OpenGL version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 565.77"
<stealth_>
does 1.* have technical limitation vs 2.0?
<kintel>
Most limitations are implemented as extension in 1.x, which is handled separately. It's mostly about having to enable/disable preview rendering in a bunch of places
<kintel>
If we can just disallow 1.x completely, the internal code paths become cleaner as we know that previews are always possible
<stealth_>
well most ppl would still be using version 2021, if you have opengl 2.0 for next release, they would keep using 2021, or find a reason to upgrade.
<stealth_>
i would personally go with 2.0 and improve the software overall to latest tech, but thats just me.
<stealth_>
actually opengl 3 is what i would go with, :p 1-2 is so old!
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<kintel>
OpenGL 3 is also 16 years old ;)
<stealth_>
ya!
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<stealth_>
but some ppl still use old systems, i was one of those still system fried.
<kintel>
But yeah, next step after OpenGL 2 is that I want to go for OpenGL 3.2 Core / GLES 2
<stealth_>
why not go with 3 now? if they can't use it, they can use the openscad 2021 version.
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<kintel>
There is no benefit yet; we still require OpenGL 2 immediate mode
<stealth_>
i see
<kintel>
The next release is also going to be major, so I don't want to lose too many users :)
<stealth_>
you also want to attract new users.. with modern systems
<InPhase>
kintel: I guess opengl versions don't map well to libgl versions.
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<InPhase>
kintel: OpenGL 2 seems to have had a release date of 2004. 20 years sounds like it should be enough. Do any targets exist that don't support it?
<kintel>
InPhase OpenGL versions are decoupled from the client library versions; it's all dynamically looked up in the drivers
<kintel>
I hope nobody needs OpenGL <2 :)
<kintel>
I think Microsoft still ships OpenGL 1.1 by default, but at some point we cannot be slaves to that decision
<kintel>
I think that would be the only one I can think of: Microsoft VMs using SW rendering with the default OpenGL 1.1
<stealth_>
i use a really small keyboard and it even had a "home" button, to comment about that link
<InPhase>
It seems OpenGL 1.2 came out right around when I decided to stop using Windows.
<J25k60>
InPhase prusa website is very browser dependent
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<guso78k>
Hi @kintel, when I compile with the latest master, i see a strange behaviour on the negative axes. https://imgur.com/a/RCiTlw9
<guso78k>
I doubt its neither a local artefact,nor intentional, let me know
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<guso78k>
compiled a version which is one month old and still same issue. something else must have changed
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<guso78k>
recently upgraded to VirtualBox 7.1, maybe this is not compatible with the recent Axis drawing code. you mentioned before, that it urgently needs rework ?
<Guest81>
the help page indeed does NOT list the --summary-file option
<teepee_>
so the wiki is wrong
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<Guest81>
yeah it seems to me the wiki is wrong, but thought maybe somebody had an idea
<teepee>
idea about?
<teepee>
it's in the dev snapshots, and would likely be included in the next release whenever that may happen
<InPhase>
This is the commit that introduced it. 2021-09-09, which postdates the named release. That help dump was added by someone with a random IP address on 2021-11-30, using the wrong binary (probably a snapshot from 2021-11 instead of the release), and no one fixed it.
<InPhase>
Guest81: But anyone can edit the wiki. It was just some unknown person who put that there, and you can fix it with the right help dump to resolve it. :)
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<J25k60>
quite possible it was me - Ü
<InPhase>
Well the address does at least point the finger at Germany. :)