04:37 <kintel> InPhase Not many sales - we were a bit late to the party I think - lots of books out on OpenSCAD now. a few thousand copies I think

04:46 <gbruno> [github] kintel pushed 2 additions 2 modifications 1 removals (Moved fixed bug test out of the bugs2D folder) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/commit/40353ed59706b47fad2257edd9c5753250530de5

04:46 <gbruno> [github] kintel synchronize pull request #5140 (Update manifold) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pull/5140

04:46 <gbruno> [github] kintel edited pull request #5140 (Update manifold) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pull/5140

04:46 <gbruno> [github] kintel edited pull request #5143 (Test examples) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pull/5143

14:12 <InPhase> kintel: Yeah. A few thousand isn't bad, all things considered. It's the sort of thing that really needs to be much higher to be worth it for fiscal reasons alone, but which there's really no obvious way to make it higher. Had you released it earlier, it still wouldn't have gone much higher, because OpenSCAD utilization was lower.

14:16 <InPhase> kintel: Many years ago I thought that making some books on various topics would be a fun career augment. But then I watched a morphing of the technical and scientific book market to the point where it seems almost all technical or scientific subjects one might write about have this same outcome, where it's not going to compensate for the time to produce. So one can still make a book, but it's more for

14:17 <InPhase> the accomplishment and status of having done it. The only profits to be had are on those extremely rare instances of people writing scientific books for the general public which have some sort of mass entertainment appeal, describing complicated topics in an engaging but fairly superficial manner, and happening to hit some top selling lists.

16:02 <kintel> InPhase Yeah, definitely a bucket list/accomplishment thing for me :) ..but having a real publisher is nice - you get so much support for stuff which would make it quite the drag to do independently. Downside is, I can't just open source it when I feel like it..

16:04 <gbruno> [github] kintel pushed 2 additions 3 modifications 1 removals (Update manifold (#5140)) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/commit/be8e2a85f8702f655f0a7881030bd83bbf68b49b

16:04 <gbruno> [github] kintel closed issue #5137 (Crash when rendering examples/Advanced/GEB.scad with Manifold) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5137

16:04 <gbruno> [github] kintel closed pull request #5140 (Update manifold) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pull/5140

16:04 <gbruno> [github] kintel edited pull request #5140 (Update manifold) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pull/5140

16:12 <teepee> ouch, all OBS builds failed

16:22 <gbruno> [github] pca006132 closed issue #5142 (Windows CI fails to build) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5142

16:26 <kintel> teepee wops, since when?

16:26 <kintel> The manifold update?

16:26 <teepee> just now, probably just one of the cmake patches needed to prevent manifold from downloading stuff

16:27 <teepee> the builders simply have no network access at all on OBS

16:28 <teepee> the error message is not very helpful but it complains about something about diffs and patches

16:34 <kintel> At some point it would be good to package manifold separately

16:34 <kintel> On the positive side, the Windows build works again :)

16:36 <teepee> yes, and yes :)

16:37 <kintel> Looks like Manifold folks is planning a breaking API changes, so let's give the first idea some more time

16:38 <kintel> ^ english is hard; I went from plural to singular 4 times in my head while writing that sentence ;)

16:55 <teepee> [ 64s] thrust not found, downloading from source

16:56 <teepee> ok, so thrust patch goes in again

16:56 <teepee> hmm, actually that seems to be only on debian11/i585

16:57 <teepee> if the other builds go green, I'll just drop that one

17:27 <teepee> nice, removing the patches worked except for that single build

17:30 <gbruno> [github] t-paul pushed 1 modifications (Add Ubuntu 24.04.) https://github.com/openscad/openscad.github.com/commit/807e9e28088b5a1ba374c02fc591971f97fbed6b

17:33 <gbruno> [github] t-paul pushed 1 modifications (Add Raspbian 12.) https://github.com/openscad/openscad.github.com/commit/d37e72cb29c98baf7770fac4b6c097a228aa7b52

17:38 <teepee> ok, looks good now https://imgur.com/MaX3lHS

17:50 <InPhase> kintel: Yeah. There's a time and a place for working within each system. One can hit different objectives, and reach people differently.