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<tmlind>
freemangordon: ok great if dtmf is there too, so really it's only the audio remaining then
<tmlind>
hmm so both CLVL and VTS are on n_gsm dlci 2, maybe there's some command similar to CLVL on the ttyUSB4?
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<subbollo>
Hi
<subbollo>
N900 gets stuck 2 minutes after hildon-desktop loads
<subbollo>
Even after setting the apt-worker interval to a crazy amount
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<freemangordon>
tmlind: even if there is, I can't find it :(
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<subbollo>
It maybe wifi related. When it succesfully connects to the internet it just works
<freemangordon>
subbollo: do you have enough free space?
<freemangordon>
tmlind: I see n_gsm in upstream, what does upstream lack in terms of motmdm?
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<subbollo>
freemangordon: yes i do. The only thing that seems to fix it is if it finds a known wifi network and it has internet
<freemangordon>
weird. I am not aware of any wifi issue on n900
<freemangordon>
but I am not using it either
<freemangordon>
lets wait for arno11 or sicelo, then may have ideas
<sicelo>
there's no wifi issue.
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<sicelo>
subbollo: the device is just testing your patience :-)
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<subbollo>
It maybe wifi related. When it succesfully connects to the internet it just works
<subbollo>
[12:06:09 a.m.] <subbollo> Could it be that apt-worker waits for internet connection before even checking for the interval?Wiki warns about wating til second boot to connect to a network
<subbollo>
Sry lmao
<sicelo>
the thing is ... n900 gets super slow when there's a lot happening simultaneously, such as at boot or when an internet connection is established
<sicelo>
so just be patient
<subbollo>
But ive waited for 20+ minutes when theres no known wifi around and it stays stuck. Not even the kb turns off when slid
<sicelo>
the lag at boot, just after desktop starts showing, is actually there even on Droid 4 ... even Librem5
<subbollo>
Oh yeah that reminds me
<freemangordon>
sicelo: not here (lag on d4)
<subbollo>
How can i make a battery for the droid 4
* sicelo
re-reads the problem statement
<freemangordon>
subbollo: I think somebody made pictures, but not woken-up enough to remember who
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: ^^^
<freemangordon>
subbollo: in short - you need a new battery that's compatible with d4 battery
<freemangordon>
then you dis-assemble the original battery, carefully remove the electronics from there and solder it to the cell of the new battery
<subbollo>
I found a lot of d4 batteries on aliexpress but idk if they are even real
<freemangordon>
even if they are, they are so old that it makes no sense
<sicelo>
freemangordon: it's definitely there. boot device, and notice that you cannot launch application list very soon after the desktop is loaded. pressing the icon for it takes a little while to respond. it not a lot, but it's there.
<subbollo>
But the problem is the flimsy connector that kept breaking
<subbollo>
Not the battery itself
<freemangordon>
sicelo: well, if you name half a second delay 'lag', then so be it :)
<sicelo>
it's not there later on. only at boot
<freemangordon>
again, that's not like device not responding for 2 minutes
<freemangordon>
maybe depends on the speed of uSD
<sicelo>
subbollo: so, you say device is unresponsive until you have internet connection?
<subbollo>
Thanks a lot. Please test the issue on the n900 if u can. Take ur n900 away from any wifi it knows and boot it
<subbollo>
sicelo yes
<freemangordon>
subbollo: did you do any 'improvements'?
<sicelo>
actually most of the time I'm not connected to wifi while using N900
<subbollo>
Yes i did both the .nomedia and check_interval set to max int value
<subbollo>
Hold up lemme check again real quick brb
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<freemangordon>
tmlind: also, I was under the impression that n_gsm patches I made 2 years ago are already upstream :). Shall I send them?
<sicelo>
subbollo: maybe you should see what htop shows
<sicelo>
i
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<sicelo>
I.e. without internet, I would expect htop to show you the hyperactive process that's looking for an internet connection
<freemangordon>
tmlind: maybe re-send ngsm servdev patches, I can take over after initial comments if you don't have time
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<freemangordon>
heh:
<freemangordon>
AT+CLVL?
<freemangordon>
4
<freemangordon>
hmm, no
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<arno11>
subbollo: interesting @wifi
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<arno11>
with devel upgrade, hildon desktop is unresponsive for around a minute or so. but a lot more if the usdcard is slow
<arno11>
*on n900
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<freemangordon>
uvos: do you know what AT$QCTER does?
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<freemangordon>
it seems it switched the modem to some weird mode
<freemangordon>
but I cannot get it out of there :)
<freemangordon>
modem AT interface that is
<freemangordon>
I tried all baudrate etc combos, to no use
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<arno11>
hmm, last n900 img is from sept and was half broken iirc
<arno11>
it could explain subbollo issues
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: maybe some qc testing?
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: can I reflash the modem?
<Wizzup>
probably, but I don't know anything about this
<freemangordon>
also, it is not that it does not respon to commands
<Wizzup>
I have 3-4 more droid4s here at your immediate disposal if that helps unblock
<freemangordon>
*respond
<freemangordon>
but in a weird way
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<freemangordon>
its like the baudrate or line discipline is different than default
<freemangordon>
according to what I have found over the inet that command changes the baudrate only
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<dsc_>
freemangordon: do you happen to know how vkeyboard gives the result to the application?
<dsc_>
on a conceptual level
<dsc_>
you type "AAAA" in vkb, close vkb, "AAAA" is inserted into the client through what mechanism?
<Wizzup>
maybe HILDON_IM_INSERT_UTF8 or so?
<dsc_>
yes I saw that one, which is a x11 event, but I'm not receiving HILDON_IM_INSERT_UTF8 when monitoring for it
<Wizzup>
if (event->xclient.message_type == ATOM(_HILDON_IM_INSERT_UTF8) &&
<Wizzup>
ok, I can try to do some write up of how I understood this to work back when, I can probably say that I know more about x11 client events than dbus, lol
<dsc_>
the plugin installs an input event handler globally
<dsc_>
then it interprets incoming xcb/x11 events
<dsc_>
and determines if they come from vkb or Qt
<Wizzup>
yes, that is correct, that is what I also did, iirc you need to tell h-i-m that you are a 'h-i-m capable' program
<dsc_>
if the vkb is active, it will eat up events
<Wizzup>
for this you need to set certain X11 atoms
<dsc_>
right
<dsc_>
that might actually be my issue yeah
<Wizzup>
although I think if the vkb is raised, you might have already set it - unsure
<Wizzup>
I think you're basically where I got stuck :D
<Wizzup>
basically at the point where I got stuck*
<dsc_>
yeah I can raise it just fine
<dsc_>
altho manually
<dsc_>
not via focus
<dsc_>
still, regardless of focus I'm expecting some sort of result
<dsc_>
after dismissing the vkb
<Wizzup>
oh, okay, I see, how do you raise it manually?
<dsc_>
its just `sendHildonCommand(HILDON_IM_SHOW, w);`
<dsc_>
where w is QWidget*
<dsc_>
i dont understand that QWidget* part yet
<dsc_>
QLineEdit probably inherits from QWidget
<Wizzup>
can you link to the code in question? or tell me where to look?
<dsc_>
so its not a plugin, but it shouldnt matter I think
<dsc_>
because we're only testing communication right now
<dsc_>
the plugin is only so that its applied to any Qt program running system-wide
<Wizzup>
yes
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<subbollo>
I just tested it and it really looks like it requires an internet connection in the first 1.5 minutes after hildon-desktop shows the background. I tested with a wifi with no internet and it gets indefinitely stuck too.
<subbollo>
Nvm idk wtf goin on
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<subbollo>
But some aint right
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<subbollo>
Anyway, the way i got to this stuckment is i installed some image that came with 6.1.x kernel. Then did a normal apt- get upgrade, then found out about the wiki and enabled -devel and did a dist-upgrade to get overclock, but somehow that didnt upgrade kernel so i ended up doing a apt-get upgrade again to fix overclock
<subbollo>
Could it alp be my dumb u1 sdcard?
<Wizzup>
subbollo: what device, what image did you start with
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<arno11>
Wizzup: last time i did a fresh install, upgrade to devel was 'broken' by gconf2 and dbus errors. reconfiguring them solved the upgrade but device was unstable with input methods not working and extrem slowness.
<arno11>
another guy reported the same symptoms on TMO
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<Wizzup>
I see, and what device is this? n900?
<Wizzup>
oh, sorry, diff. user I suspect
<arno11>
on n900 that is
<Wizzup>
yeah, for you I know :D
<arno11>
:) i mean the 2 other users are on n900
<arno11>
subbollo: i recommend you to wait a new img. overclock is cool, but better have a stable and smooth device before using it
<arno11>
i mean it is smooth enough with no overclock actually (when the install is ok ofc)
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: re my modems(s)
<freemangordon>
they behave very weird, it,s like 2 devices are connected in parallel or something
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<subbollo>
N900 and i cant remember what image but it couldve been the april one cause i flashed it in june
<arno11>
ah ok. so what did you do exactly ? fresh install, no wifi on first boot, expand card, reboot, upgrade ? (you should directly dist-upgrade to devel btw)
<arno11>
and reboot before tweaking anything
<arno11>
ah and you should check if swap is activated btw
<subbollo>
Yes fresh install and expand on first boot. Yes i did reboot and left it that way after finding out it was slow. And i just picked it up a couple days ago and started tweaking, and did the .nomedia and apt-worker check_interval fix. Then later on i upgraded kernel to 6.6 in order to get overclock to work, cause the boost file wouldnt appear on 6.1.
<subbollo>
I really noticed this problem after the dist-upgrade i did that didnt upgrade the kernel. Basically it was like this: flashed "april" image, expanded card, connected to wifi, installed emacs, left it that way for like 5 months, apt update then apt upgrade, some packages didnt configure well, did a dpkg --reconfigure -a, enabled -devel, dist-upgrade
<subbollo>
that didnt upgrade kernel, apt update and apt upgrade.
<Wizzup>
yeah, the dpkg configure problem with gconf is annoying
<Wizzup>
this should not happen on later images at least
<subbollo>
Its either something wifi related at boot time, my u1 card that somehow gets it stuck forever or idk wtf goin on
<arno11>
Wizzup: it happened to me with the last img from sept iirc
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<arno11>
subbollo: what kind of u1 btw ?
<subbollo>
The adata 32gb pink and orange one
<arno11>
probably too slow unfortunately, specially when updating
<arno11>
but anyway that's not the main issue actually
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<tmlind>
hmm so are the usb qmi kernel and ofono in some devel repo? i have deb https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste chimaera-devel main contrib non-free droid4
<tmlind>
freemangordon: did a reboot clear the modem? you can always reflash the modem if nothing else helps
<tmlind>
freemangordon: feel free to take over the ngsm stuff
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<subbollo>
How can i get openmediaplayer to scan my music?
<Wizzup>
it think it should do that automatically, but it won't scan everything, just some directories
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<subbollo>
What are those directories?
<subbollo>
Did the .nomedia thing prevents it from scanning?
<Wizzup>
let me pull up gsettings and check
<Wizzup>
$ gsettings get org.freedesktop.Tracker.Miner.Files index-recursive-directories
<freemangordon>
it really looks like whole config is garbage
<freemangordon>
and it looks like it types commands to itself
<freemangordon>
it is really weird
<freemangordon>
as soon as I attach minicom and issue ATI, I get response to ATI, but then several more OK and ERROR messages
<freemangordon>
like if it thinks its own response is commands from the user
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<tmlind>
freemangordon: yeah flashing radio.img should be enough
<tmlind>
maybe you put it into some echo mode like dlci 7 is on ngsm?
<tmlind>
i think flashing radio.img just copies it to device, you need to let it reboot to flasher that runs the update-binary 3 1 radio.zip on the file extracted from the radio.img while modem is in uart mode
<tmlind>
if you do that from linux you need to restart the modem 2 or 3 times after flashing
<tmlind>
to boot modem into flash mode, you need to modprobe phy-mapphone-mdm6600 flash_mode=3 with the modem flash patch i posted several years ago, need to find it
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<subbollo>
Excuse me but does the tracker follow sym links? I changed xdg_music_dir to point to a symlink and openmediaplayer still dont show none
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<subbollo>
Bro i cant even get irc think working on. Maybe i just need to stop and get an iphone
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<gnarface>
does it really not follow symlinks?
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<gnarface>
you sure you're not just missing some other XDG_* variable?
<gnarface>
i'm not entirely clear on it, but i was under the impression that you usually have to set either XDG_RUNTIME_DIR or several others at once
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<arno11>
subbollo: please wait for a new img. don't waste your time installing stuff on an half broken install