01:41 <midfavila> i'm going to go fucking insane i swear to god

01:41 <midfavila> every time i think i have libtls working it does a quadruple sideways backflip and completely throws me for a loop

01:41 <midfavila> maybe that says more about me than anything else

01:41 <midfavila> fucking hell

12:33 <midfavila> >open my protonmail inbox

12:33 <midfavila> >redirected to a page where they shill their premium plans

12:34 <midfavila> nothing says customer service like upselling constantly

13:04 <midfavila> well, at least i'm not the only one frustrated by libtls. i've found a few other people on the net complaining about it being more difficult than it claims to be, and after trying to run a few supposedly-good example clients without luck i'm tempted to just throw my hands up

14:56 <sewn> weh

15:54 <phoebos> midfavila: siag office looks cool

15:55 <phoebos> what's going wrong with libtls?

16:55 <midfavila> if i knew i wouldn't be complaining. for some reason (errno nor tls_error will tell me) i consistently fail to receive data over a TLS socket despite not having trouble establishing and transmitting over the same link

16:56 <midfavila> i'm going to probably scrap the networking code of fetch/apport/hc/whatever and build up around a modified example

16:56 <midfavila> and just fiddle with it until i get it to work

16:56 <midfavila> and yes siag is very cool

16:56 <midfavila> it's unfortunately sparsely/not maintained

16:56 <midfavila> but it has great potential

16:57 <midfavila> speaking of potential

16:57 <midfavila> my new job has potential

16:57 <midfavila> little vegan diner a couple blocks from my apartment is hiring and training a new apprentice chef and i just got the contract

16:57 <midfavila> i've never cooked vegan before but hey, training, decent wages and a respectable job at a business that isn't completely pozzed

16:58 <midfavila> the owner is based asf too

16:58 <midfavila> we had like a half hour conversation on the environmental impact of SaaS

17:12 <midfavila> btw have any of you tried running posh as your system shell?

17:12 <midfavila> debian's strictly posix interpreter

17:12 <midfavila> i think it could be worthwhile to try porting kiss to posh

17:12 <midfavila> as opposed to relying on just shellcheck

17:17 <testuser[m]> Better to port to a sane lang

17:18 <midfavila> i don't disagree, but is anyone working on a new implementation of kiss? i would try myself, but it's kind of a big project

17:18 <midfavila> at least for me

17:19 <testuser[m]> https://github.com/git-bruh/kiss-ng

17:19 <testuser[m]> I m not getting much time for it

17:20 <testuser[m]> Need to do fool stack web development for dough

17:20 <midfavila> oh huh

17:20 <midfavila> nice

17:20 <midfavila> although, i have to say

17:20 <midfavila> >meson

17:22 <midfavila> in the future i think i'd like to write my own kiss-adjacent package manager

17:22 <midfavila> taking advantage of the concept of sharchives

17:23 <midfavila> ...well, maybe

17:23 <midfavila> i do like kiss

21:38 <sewn> if you like kiss do you like kissing

21:40 <acidbong> i miss it 😢

22:38 <midfavila> acidbong: retvrn

22:39 <acidbong> or from whom?

22:39 <acidbong> how? to whom?

22:39 <midfavila> to kiss

22:39 <midfavila> reassimilate into the posix hivemind

23:35 <sewn> return to kissing