09:42 <testuser[m]> hi

09:42 <testuser[m]> Gremlin8483: kiss update only rebuilds packages that have actually been updated

10:49 <acidbong> Gremlin8483: 'kiss u' updates the repos and updates the packages if there's a newer version, the other one just rebuilds whatever is installed

10:50 <Gremlin8483> acidbong testuser[m] appreciate the help! i guess both the update and the rebuild is required for a fresh install, makes sense

10:51 <Gremlin8483> this system is amazing, i built a few simple packages on my own so far and it feels so good

10:52 <acidbong> it's here just in case you wanna rebuild all the programs with different flags (like -O2, -march=native or -fuse-ld=mold)

10:52 <Gremlin8483> ah i didnt even think of that, i just blindly threw those vars into .profile

10:52 <Gremlin8483> good point

10:53 <acidbong> speaking in Gentoo terms, it's `emerge -uDU @world` vs `emerge -e world`

10:53 <acidbong> (in case you're familiar)

10:53 <Gremlin8483> yikes, gentoo was what brought me here, i installed it halfway, thought it was over complicated, and immediately looked to kiss

10:54 <Gremlin8483> i appreciate what theyve done over there

10:54 <Gremlin8483> but kiss is a work of art

10:55 <Gremlin8483> one more question if you have the time, is it possible to point "sources" to a local path? im sure i can make it work if i thinker with the kiss script, wondering if theere is a native way

10:56 <acidbong> you mean path to repos?

10:56 <Gremlin8483> well repo/extra/package/source points to a https://version.targz

10:56 <Gremlin8483> can i have that https be /local/tar.gz

10:56 <Gremlin8483> i plan to put everything local anyway

10:57 <Gremlin8483> and pull sources manually

10:57 <Gremlin8483> the internet paths change occasionally and annoying

10:58 <acidbong> you can use kiss-community repo on codeberg, it's still fresh

10:58 <Gremlin8483> yes i plan to, the repos themselves still point to internet sources

10:58 <Gremlin8483> i guess i can just figure out a fork to the kiss script or something, not a huge deal

10:59 <Gremlin8483> i believe it just curls whatever is in source file by default

10:59 <Gremlin8483> just have to add an option to look for a local path and cp instead of curl

10:59 <acidbong> or just fork the repo, in case kiss is already capable of using local sources

11:00 <Gremlin8483> yea great idea

11:00 <acidbong> is it tho, testuser[m] ?

11:00 <Gremlin8483> thanks for the tips, every bit helps!

11:09 <Gremlin8483> ok you are right it does look for local paths, not just internet sources

14:34 <testuser[m]> acidbong: yeah it works but i'd personally just setup a proxy or something that caches stuff. like download the file if it doesn't exist, else just relay the local file over sockets

14:35 <testuser[m]> bit more involved tho

14:35 <testuser[m]> but less work

14:35 <testuser[m]> in the long term

17:37 <midfavila> some of you guys have experimented with PGO in the past, right? what's the overall performance increase, if you had to eyeball it?

17:37 <midfavila> i'm particularly interested in PGO'ing gcc

19:46 <sewn> what about lto

21:08 <midfavila> only interested in pgo right now

22:59 <illiliti> imho pgo not worth it

22:59 <illiliti> unless you are compiling electron with it