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<midfavila> >get a referral to give to a medical professional so I can get coverage
<midfavila> >first lady I talk to responds
<midfavila> >>we use zoom for our business
<midfavila> >start shopping around
<midfavila> botnet is trying to kill me
<sad_plan> watch out for the hitmen from the darkweb mid, theyre on to you now
<midfavila> oh no
<midfavila> jeff bezos teamed up with elon musk to deploy a bitcoin assassin to my location
<midfavila> better watch out
<sad_plan> lock your doors and close the windows, and hide
<sad_plan> > uses linux. nevermind the windows
<midfavila> yeah i was gonna say
<midfavila> this isn't a microsoft chat
<sad_plan> lol
<midfavila> at least not until i get a demotion from wageslave to junior C# dev
<sad_plan> something like that. what would be your stance on using a workcomputer using something else than what you wanna use? say.. arch or hell even windows with vim. or macos.
<sad_plan> taking into account that this wasnt disclosed beforehand
<sad_plan> would you just quit? :p
<midfavila> as an employee my job is to satisfy the demands of the client using the resources allocated
<midfavila> simple as
<sad_plan> fair enough
<midfavila> of course i'm going to bitch about it after work
<sad_plan> obviously
<midfavila> but suffering through VS Code and Windows is better than running around for seven hours straight without a break
<sad_plan> for sure
<midfavila> plus i can get reasonably work from home
<midfavila> and the experience will hopefully lead to a less pozzed job in the future
<sad_plan> I belive I could see myself working from home.
<sad_plan> being able to work remotly does open alot of doors in terms of freedom anyway
<sad_plan> makes traveling alot easier for one
<midfavila> indeed
<midfavila> i've given some thought to living nomadically for a while
<midfavila> it would be an interesting experience to just move all my PC crap into a van, strap a sattelite transceiver and solar panel on top and then drive around NA for a few years
<sad_plan> yeah, its appealing to me anyway
<sad_plan> absolutely
<midfavila> just realized i've been spelling satellite wrong all this time
<midfavila> mfw
<sad_plan> lol
<midfavila> future OS dev everyone
<sad_plan> midOS
<midfavila> before that i need to btfo the devs of the MUD i play
<midfavila> ...and finish working on XIrc
<sad_plan> you could probably even fit that monstrosity of a machine you have in a van too you know :p
<midfavila> yeah but i wouldn't bother
<sad_plan> it would be massivly inconvinient though
<sad_plan> as opposed to just a laptop or a smaller desktop
<midfavila> if/when i get around to being my True Self:tm: and getting in touch with nature and hippie bullshit like that i'm just gonna get a Reform or similar
<midfavila> then use it to access SDF
<midfavila> and do most of my work on there
<sad_plan> reform, the massive laptop?
<midfavila> indeed
<sad_plan> cool
<midfavila> it's, unfortunately, not viable for me right now
<sad_plan> thats fair
<midfavila> i *really* don't like the lack of SATA
<sad_plan> im sure youd adopt to the lack of sata
<midfavila> muh affordable storage
<midfavila> at some point i'll probably go full schizo and design my own laptop
<sad_plan> adopters is a thing you know
<midfavila> imagine trying to get through airport security with a homebrew laptop
<sad_plan> you can build ones with rpis though, but theyre not very powerfull...
<sad_plan> yeah, that would be a sight to behold
<midfavila> i'd rather adapt something like the kestrel
<midfavila> i can get by with *very* little computing power
<sad_plan> im unfamiliar with kestrel
<sad_plan> so you could get away with a sbc?
<midfavila> it's a homebrew desktop computer that failed halfway through its third revision
<midfavila> and yes
<midfavila> easily
<sad_plan> I see
<midfavila> if i was more competent and has the ability to write my own OS i could get away with amiga-era hardware
<midfavila> s/has/had even
<midfavila> christ
<midfavila> aaaaaaaAAAAaaaaAAAaAAA
<sad_plan> so a rpi 4 would basically be more than enough for you?
<midfavila> indeed
<sad_plan> nice. Ive been playing with the thought of ditching the desktop idea, and going for something like a NUC, or similar formfactor. or just a sbc, but theyre lacking in alot of stuff.
<midfavila> indeed
<sad_plan> Ive however seen nomadic people bringing a rpi instead of a laptop though
<midfavila> the problem i have with SBCs is that they're inflexible in many ways
<midfavila> i would rather a backplane-based system
<sad_plan> just go to a library and use the screen and keyboard/mice from them instead
<midfavila> i used to do something similar but it's uh, frowned upon, to put it lightly
<midfavila> :v
<sad_plan> not really familiar with that erm
<sad_plan> term
<midfavila> it's not approved of
<sad_plan> I meant backplane
<midfavila> ah
<sad_plan> I looked it up, and it seems its a pcb basically
<midfavila> another type of system architecture, where the computer is simply a conglomerate of boards loosely connected by a board with minimal logic, as opposed to a tightly integrated and sophisticated motherbaord
<midfavila> motherboard
<midfavila> FUCK
<sad_plan> with i/o's on
<midfavila> make a minor mistake and everything i say suddenly becomes invalid ree
<midfavila> but yeah that's the gist of things
<sad_plan> which would fix an sbc's lack of connectivity, in you case, lack of sata
<midfavila> mmhm
<sad_plan> makes sense. neither need to be really big, and could probably fit in a rather small case, or hidden away
<sad_plan> mid did you end up managing to ditch a phone entierly? or what was the ordeal there? I recall you wanting to uss a regular housephone instead or something :p
<midfavila> haven't ditched the phone entirely yet
<midfavila> my blackberry sits on my router plugged in 24/7 though
<midfavila> so it's basically a housephone
<midfavila> only very rarely will i take it with me, usually when i need to be able to call taxis and stuff
<sad_plan> I see
<sad_plan> what OS does it run? linux?
<midfavila> QNX
<sad_plan> never heard of it before, but I see its unix like
<sad_plan> is that the default os?
<midfavila> yes
<midfavila> it also can't be changed
<midfavila> the phone's bootloader is locked with a signing key
<sad_plan> I see. was just going to ask that one :p
<sad_plan> thats dumb
<midfavila> when you consider blackberry's model, not really
<midfavila> they were the original mobile vertical integrators
<sad_plan> not really familiar with those phones at all. I cant recall they ever gaining some trackting where Im from
<midfavila> except instead of focusing on Experience:tm: and Courage:r: like Apple they just focused on getting shit done
<sad_plan> I like that
<midfavila> blackberries were popular before the iPhone took off
<midfavila> yeah my blackberries have all been amazing bits of kit
<sad_plan> iphones are turds though.. or the OS is anyway. the HW is actually rather decent
<sad_plan> seen them on unixporn lots of times with linux on them
<midfavila> no keyboard means it belongs in the trash
<sad_plan> ah, so you swear by a hardware keyboard?:p
<midfavila> unironically yes
<sad_plan> I see.
<midfavila> even my pinenote i don't consider a "real" computer because it hasn't got a keyboard case like what the blackberry playbook had
<midfavila> it's basically just a fancy notebook
<midfavila> fantastic in that role, but otherwise useless. not truly general-purpose because of the tedium that would imply
<sad_plan> I was going to mention a phone,but I forgot what its called. run android, but also ubuntu. has keyboard like the addon for pinephone
<midfavila> i know of a few like that
<midfavila> might be the cosmo communicator or whatever from planet computers
<sad_plan> fx tec is what I was thinking about
<midfavila> ah, yeah
<sad_plan> or f(x) tec. Im not sure whats the deal with those brackets
<midfavila> i think that that was actually made by blackberry's old hardware contractors
<midfavila> RIM
<sad_plan> neat
<midfavila> my next mobile device will *probably* be the uconsole
<midfavila> with a CM4 from Pine64
<midfavila> brb
<midfavila> switching machines
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<sad_plan> looks cool
<midfavila-tab> ye
<sad_plan> that would be cool
<sad_plan> wait, its not even that big. it would fit neatly in your pocket even
<midfavila-tab> indeed
<sad_plan> says it runs debian, ubunti, rpiOS and other. well probably most other stuff aswell too
<sad_plan> im intregued
<sad_plan> intrigued
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<Torr> Ahoy
<sad_plan> hi
<sad_plan> or ahoy matey
<midfavila-tab> yarr and etc
<Torr> sad_plan: Both o/
<sad_plan> did you know facebook actually has pirate english as language? its really funny, but also makes everything less readable, as they use lots of words and phrases one wouldnt recognize
<midfavila-tab> red hat used to have redneck so
<midfavila-tab> not surprising
<sad_plan> I find it amusing when companies does things like this
<Torr> sad_plan: Nope, I didn't.
<Torr> sad_plan: What's the term they use for "friend"?
<Torr> midfavila-tab: Lol
<sad_plan> but Im sure someone would probably get offended in this day and age with redneck
<sad_plan> Torr: its mates iirc
<sad_plan> dont really use facebook anymore
<Torr> Wise choice.
<sad_plan> yeah. I still have an account, but it doesnt really give me any value on a day to day basis
<sad_plan> facebook does has its usescases, like buying or selling stuff. groups related to interests, events and other stuff, but yeah.. I manage fine without it. still use IG some though, but only for viewing picutes of memes and other stuff of interest. stopped posting entierly though
<midfavila-tab> man, rereading stuff i used to be super into ten years ago now makes me want to curl up into a ball and disappear :v
<midfavila-tab> so gd cringy
<sad_plan> I can relate to that
<midfavila-tab> maybe the internet was actually never that great :thinking:
<sad_plan> that may just also be the case. if you get rid of internet, how would you fare? rather well if you ask me
<Torr> midfavila-tab: The internet is as great as you make it be.
<midfavila-tab> younger-me definitely was better at that
<sad_plan> its a tool, use is as such. dont let it use you. basically
<sad_plan> its the same with phones aswell. its a great tool, but most people just get stuck on them and waste their day
<midfavila-tab> i recall distinctly the excitement with which i'd run back home after being out all day just to fuck around on my pc
<midfavila-tab> always felt like some cool new site or program was around the corner
<midfavila-tab> now it's just... "meh"
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<testuser[m]> Hi
<Torr> testuser[m]: Hello
<sad_plan> mid you probably exhausted the list of existing stuff :p or you just found what you care about
<sad_plan> hi testuser[m]
<midfavila> nah i'm just jaded as hell at this point
<midfavila> and also the sort of indie vibe the web used to have has been replaced by mass-manufactured sanitized corporate garbage
<midfavila> that might have something to do with it idk
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<sad_plan> that is infact true. if you look at the internet 20 years back, there were lots of cool websites around, now most websites are just google/facebook etc stuff ads and other bs
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<Ellowee[m]> No creativity, the technology behind websites is a given now
<Ellowee[m]> Corporatization
<Ellowee[m]> etc
<sad_plan> its not needed, as you can easily create a website without any knowledge with i.e. squarespace
<sad_plan> its easier than ever
<sad_plan> its all been monitized
<Ellowee[m]> Maybe with AI will we see reinassance of websites
<sad_plan> or the end of mankind
<sad_plan> or peoplekind which some important canadian now suddenly started to say
<Ellowee[m]> Racist to Lizardkind
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<sad_plan> hah, yeah
<Torr> 'til later
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<sewn> Hi
<niceguy5000[m]> ().()/
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<sad_plan> hi
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