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<wael_>
Hi
<midfavila>
hello
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<testuser[m]>
hi
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<virutalmachineus>
I'm currently using a rust mircokernel with a crypto blockchain userspace. Elon musk was right about blockchain mars, it's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.
<testuser[m]>
Spin up fully configured dev environments on powerful VMs that start in seconds. Get up to 60 hours a month of free time.
<testuser[m]>
can we go ahed with b3 now
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<illiliti>
what's stopping us?
<testuser[m]>
nothing
<testuser[m]>
i just have to merge
<testuser[m]>
and make the draft release public
<testuser[m]>
done
<illiliti>
nice
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<midfavila>
"b3"?
<illiliti>
blake3 checksums
<midfavila>
aaah
<midfavila>
reminds me that i need to give implementing cksum a shot
<illiliti>
why would you implement a broken tool?
<midfavila>
practice
<midfavila>
i have little programming experience, and less implementing from spec
<midfavila>
even less in terms of implementing algorithms
<illiliti>
try diff or patch
<illiliti>
you'll learn algorithms there
<midfavila>
on the list, but later
<illiliti>
ok
<midfavila>
as I implement programs I'm also replacing parts of my userland with them, so I want to be more competent before I work on those
<midfavila>
idea being I'm more likely to uncover implementation errors if I daily my own software
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<Guest74>
Is anybody here?
<midfavila>
56 are by my count
<Guest74>
How many seconds (average) does kisslinux boot up?
<midfavila>
- w-
<wael_>
midfavila
<wael_>
<Guest74> "How many seconds (average..." <- if all you are about is boot time
<wael_>
make your own init
<Guest74>
Didn't understand
<wael_>
what
<midfavila>
disengage
<wael_>
tl;dr dont worry about it
<wael_>
boot time is not important
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<Guest74>
midfavila, then I will describe the question in other words: How long does it take from turning on the computer to the appearance of the desktop?
<midfavila>
I understood your question. That you would ask it shows you know nothing of how KISS operates, and as such indicates the tools aren't for you.
<midfavila>
If you had taken the time to read the KISS website, you would know that to ask how quickly KISS boots makes no sense.
<wael_>
<Guest74> "midfavila, then I will describe..." <- youre the type of guy to shit on systemd without understanding innit
<cem>
and what's wrong about caring about init time?
<cem>
I very much do
<midfavila>
in this instance the problem is that KISS has no standard boot system. asking how fast kiss boots is absurd because every kiss system has a potentially wildly different init scheme, userspace, development toolchain, toolchain environment variables, and so on
<midfavila>
it's like asking how fast gentoo boots - *who knows*? every gentoo system is different
<cem>
Eh, the way the default init scripts work in kiss doesn't leave much for the init program itself
<cem>
There is no difference in boot time with my scripts whether I use runit or shinit or busybox init
<cem>
So I don't think there's a huge difference as the init scripts are pretty lean and simple
<cem>
It's nothing wrong to be curious and ask
<cem>
For me it takes a second or two to boot into my system
<cem>
Obviously it will be longer depending on your system complexity, and your hardware Guest74
<Guest74>
cem, do you have hdd or ssd?
<cem>
nvme
<cem>
However, it wasn't much slower with my previous computer that had an hdd
<cem>
Oh actually that's not true, sorry
<cem>
My root partition was on an nvme and my home partition was on hdd on that computer
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<sad_plan>
o/
<sad_plan>
strange. is anyone else having issues with enter not working when kiss prompts to install packages?
<sad_plan>
hm. didnt happen on a chroot. maybe its my setup giving me issues
<sad_plan>
seems sbase dd is the culprit here. broke when #106 got merged into kiss.