jaeger changed the topic of #crux to: CRUX 3.7 | Homepage: https://crux.nu/ | Ports: https://crux.nu/portdb/ https://crux.ninja/portdb/ | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/crux/
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<hunter0one> Hi, I just installed Crux and am trying to use labwc. I cant get gtk2 programs to work like gimp because they complain about not being able to open a display but dont even say the display and if I set DISPLAY=:0 then labwc will fail to launch
<hunter0one> I already rebuilt mesa, gtk3 and others since I had wayland deps installed after those
<darfo> I use sway not labwc but I have GDK_BACKEND=wayland in the environment and gimp works fine for me
<darfo> I see the gimp I'm using uses gtk3 not gtk2.
<darfo> oh, nm, I see it uses both gtk2 and gtk3 (not sure why/how that works). It's the one in the contrib repo.
<darfo> I used https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wayland a lot when I was first trying Wayland on CRUX.
<hunter0one> I see
<hunter0one> GDK_BACKEND=wayland didnt do anything either
<hunter0one> Its something to do with xwayland im pretty sure, afaik gimp still uses gtk2 so not sure why gtk3 is included, Gimp 3 is coming out soon and it will be gtk3 though
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<r0ni> i was going to make a labwc port for lxqt but i haven't gotten around to it yet, it's on my agenda though "someday"
<r0ni> oh they quit anyway
<jaeger> Hadn't seen labwc before, looks pretty solid
<r0ni> its openbox for wayland basically, works very well with lxqt2
<r0ni> i plan to add at least a kwin session and labwc session for lxqt before long... i just need to iron out dep issues still on repo
<r0ni> if there's any dep issues still, that is a task i've yet to check lol
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<cruxbot> [opt/3.7]: protobuf: 25.3 -> 27.3
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: cmark: 0.31.0 -> 0.31.1
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: csvlens: 0.9.1 -> 0.10.0
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: eza: 0.18.23 -> 0.18.24
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: handlr: 0.11.1 -> 0.11.2
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: fluidsynth: 2.3.5 -> 2.3.6
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: kodi-addon-inputstream-adaptive: 21.5.0 -> 21.5.1
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: lsp-plugins: 1.2.16 -> 1.2.17
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: pavucontrol: 6.0 -> 6.1
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: pcsclite: 2.2.3 -> 2.3.0
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: protobuf-c: rebuilt for protobuf 27.3
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: python3-attrs: 23.2.0 -> 24.1.0
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: python3-setuptools-rust: 1.9.0 -> 1.10.0
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: vkquake: 1.31.1 -> 1.31.1.1
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: zathura: 0.5.6 -> 0.5.7
<cruxbridge> <tim> @irc_libera.chat_hunter0one:crux.nu: you most likely need xwayland enabled with labwc or somewhere down that dependency chain
<r0ni> i just looked at my script and there sure does need to have a -Dxwayland=enabled for it to work
<cruxbridge> <tim> gtk2 has no native wayland backend
<cruxbridge> <tim> as soon as gimp switched to gtk3 this should work without xwayland, but till then..
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<SiFuh> jaeger: Did you ever try my modular kernel in qemu? emmett1 says it doesn't work.
<jaeger> I don't recall. Any details?
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<SiFuh> jaeger: none. I asked emmett1 to provide them but he hasn't yet.. Not sure if he will though.
<SiFuh> And I am not going to even attempt to qemu build a kernel. I don't like qemu.
<jaeger> Why not?
<SiFuh> I don't like qemu.
<jaeger> Why not? If you don't want to say, that's fine, just curious.
<SiFuh> I just don't like it. Virtual Box is much easier to handle
<jaeger> Fair enough
<SiFuh> I have hopes that it will become better
<SiFuh> But currently, I dislike it. Not wading through manuals to figure out what options I have available in geek talk that no layman can understand.
<jaeger> I don't expect it will ever get more user-friendly but I guess that's why frontends like virt-manager exist
<SiFuh> Yet retards can use phones to search the internet
<SiFuh> Hahaha
<SiFuh> I've nothing against qemu except it has a lack of user friendly support. I have faith in it though
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<cruxbridge> <jloc0> I installed crux in VMware recently and the stock kernel config works fine there
<cruxbridge> <jloc0> Tried the 3.8 beta and it fails before one can begin over lineups
<cruxbridge> <jloc0> Lineups
<cruxbridge> <jloc0> Omfg lib crypt (damn phone)
<jaeger> SiFuh: ok, the 6.1.49 config seems to work fine, at least.
<jaeger> there's a new test one for that issue
<SiFuh> I see. Thanks
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<r0ni> jaeger: oh nice, I'll have to try again. want to see whats coming up and if my things build or not, preperation is key!
<jaeger> Please report if you run into anything else :)
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<stratofall> How is the kde-plasma-6 going for people? I've been thinking of trying it out.
<stratofall> If anyone is using it. What brand of gpu are you using, AMD or Nvidia?
<jaeger> It's working pretty well for me at this point. There were definitely some issues when it first came out but updates have solved the ones I saw
<jaeger> I'm using it on both AMD and nvidia. Wayland on the AMD side, Xorg on the Nvidia side
<r0ni> same, using kwin_wayland and all is well (though iv'e used elsewhere and it's all good there too)
<stratofall> Cool, I have both brands cards as well. good to hear its working well on both.
<stratofall> Can you see any difference between wayland and X11?
<stratofall> Also, any good postfix mail server how to's you guys use?
<jaeger> No real difference that I see, they both seem to work fine
<jaeger> No specific howto here, I've just read the docs or referenced stuff over the years
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