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<jeosol> Xach: yes, I was. I use cl-store to serialize objects to disk. I was trying to see if you have any experience or have used your S3 CL lib to store similar in AWS S3.
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<Xach> jeosol: no. but a cl-store file is just a bunch of octets. zs3 puts bunches of octets in s3.
<beach> Good morning everyone!
<jeosol> ah I see. I guess I can just copy the cl-store file to zs3 then. I'll need to retrieve them and deserialize them again, hence my question
<jeosol> beach: good morning
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<Shinmera> Any clx people here? It's weird to me that xlib:grab-key only allows an uint8 for the keycode. I don't understand how I'm supposed to grab keys outside that range like KP_0 or others. Is that just an outdated definition, or?
<jackdaniel> Shinmera: the protocol says that the keycode must be in range min-keycode and max-keycode
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<jackdaniel> on my server it says that it is in range [8, 255]
<Shinmera> Hm.
<Shinmera> I wonder how C xlib does it then? KP_0 for instance is defined as 0xffb0
<jackdaniel> you may try with :any (as a keycode)
<jackdaniel> perhaps they grab the keyboard instead?
<jackdaniel> and look up the keypress event
<Shinmera> :any gives me an accesserror. I'm trying to grab keys on the root window.
<Shinmera> I've also tried keycodes of lower keys like a/A, but then I just don't get any events at all. I'm very confused and have wasted hours on what I thought would be trivial.
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<Shinmera> Guess I'll shelve this one.
<jackdaniel> perhaps these keycodes outside of that range are a result of applying modifiers to them
<jackdaniel> i.e shift+a is A
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<marios1861> (asdf:system-source-file :cffi) points to the wrong file (an ancient version). How do I change that so it always listens to quicklisp for libraries
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<unixlisp> (gethash "cffi" asdf/system-registry:*registered-systems*)
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<jeosol> Good morning guys\
<beach> Hello jeosol.
<beach> I assume women are included in "guys", yes?
<jeosol> hello beach
<jeosol> yes, I use that term generously, but to avoid ambuiguity, "good morning all" is better I suppose
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<beach> Just checking.
<jeosol> Yes I have been reminded of this before in the past, by you, I stand corrected that there are women lispers here too
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<Guest74> meh, you can't please everyone.  I've met women who get offended by not being included in terms such as guys/dudes.
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<VincentVega> hello, women!
<VincentVega> meh, just like real life : (
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<pjb> :-)
<pjb> Hello, Lispers!
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<engblom> Is there something like acons that does update the original list rather than making a new list?
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<engblom> Could someone check out this: https://pastesite.org/view/c6b04b81
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<engblom> If failes to compile with " during macroexpansion of (LOOP FOR (KEY VALUE) ...). Use *BREAK-ON-SIGNALS* to
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<engblom> intercept.
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<jackdaniel> you miss do
<jackdaniel> (loop for (k v) on p by #'cddr DO (setq …))
<beach> engblom: How could you not make a new CONS cell if you want to add a new key/value pair?
<jackdaniel> that's why I say that you do DO when you DO DO DO :)
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<Alfr> engblom, what's wrong with acons? And why would you want to modify a cons? assoc and rassoc will give you the fist cons, so putting your new association at the head should usually do the right thing.
<jackdaniel> I think that he means aconsf, that is (setf list (acons key val list))
<pjb> it's called push
<jackdaniel> so modify a binding, not a list
<pjb> (push (cons key val) alist)
<jackdaniel> indeed
<Alfr> engblom, note that traversing and finding the corresponding cons may be more costly than simply, as pjb says, pushing a new one.
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<engblom> jackdaniel: Thanks, yes I was missing do
<engblom> pjb: Thanks, it makes sense to use push
<engblom> Now it seems to work for me, and it is using push now instead of rewriting the whole list
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<resttime> Kinda curious, is there a library out there to use m-exp instead of s-exp when writing code?
<jackdaniel> yes, it was called cl-infix or something like that
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<jackdaniel> I don't remember the exact name and a link, but there was a library doing exactly that
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<resttime> Ah here we go, think I found something to play with: https://www.informatimago.com/develop/lisp/com/informatimago/small-cl-pgms/m-expression/
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<yitzi> meh
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<jcowan> Note that M-expressions are prefix, not infix
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<jackdaniel> jcowan: how comes?
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<kagevf> scymtym: 2 questions: "what does dpANS stand for?" and "how did you make those slides?"
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<phoe> kagevf: draft preview American National Standard, re the first question
<kagevf> phoe: thank you
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<yitzi> I think its actually "proposed?"
<scymtym> kent pitman writes "draft proposed American National Standard"
<scymtym> kagevf: i made the slides with org-mode and org-reveal (and various programs for the figures)
<kagevf> scymtym: hmmm that sounds very familiar ... did you post a video about it recently? or maybe mention it in r/emacs?
<scymtym> kagevf: i didn't
<kagevf> scymtym: I see ... thank you for the info
<scymtym> sure
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<kagevf> scymtym: the slides are very nice ... appreciated how they support hjkl navigation ... and they looked good too!
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<scymtym> kagevf: thanks. i guess that praise should go towards reveal.js. org-mode with org-reveal is a quick way to make something decent in a sane format (for certain kinds of presentations)
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<kagevf> I see ... good to know
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<phoe> yitzi: maybe, thanks
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<engblom> @fml
<engblom> Sorry, wrong channel
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