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<zmatt> you can't slow down the loop, since it is synchronized to the fixed-rate measurements from the load cell
<zmatt> oh he left
<set_> I am here!
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<mattb0ne> back
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<mattb0ne> Friday!!!!
<mattb0ne> soooo zmatt here?
<mattb0ne> we got wee bit of a problem with this dumb pin
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<zmatt> mattb0ne: the overlay you showed doesn't include P9.13 / gpio 0.31 ?
<zmatt> what does show-pins | grep P9.13 show?
<zmatt> aaaand gone again
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<mattb0ne> the bealge does not have unistd.h?
<mattb0ne> i need a delay
<zmatt> 23:37 <@zmatt> mattb0ne: there shouldn't be any __delay_cycles at all since your code is synchronized to the measurement rate of the load cell
<zmatt> 23:38 <@zmatt> i.e. adding __delay_cycles() does not change the rate at which your loop runs, it just reduces the time available per loop iteration until it fails to process the load cell data and faults
<mattb0ne> right
<mattb0ne> i took that out but my code is still running too fast
<zmatt> how is it "too fast" ?
<zmatt> the way your program currently works means it will inherently operate at the sample rate of the load cell
<zmatt> and the only way to change that is by changing the sample rate of the load cell
<zmatt> not by adding a delay
<zmatt> (or _completely_ redesigning how the program works, changing the structure into something way more complicated than it currently is)
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<zmatt> my suggestion would be to just run the PID loop at whatever rate you're currently getting, instead of deciding it is "too fast"
<zmatt> generally spaeking, running a loop faster is a good thing and makes it easier to tune
<mattb0ne> but I am not tracking time elapsed so I tick through the points on each loop pass
<mattb0ne> I guess I could play with that
<mattb0ne> getting a weird assert erro
<mattb0ne> error
<zmatt> ?
<mattb0ne> the core check is breaking at like 134 which is asserting the message sizee
<mattb0ne> never seen that before
<mattb0ne> I wanted to add the input and output signals to the message
<zmatt> ehh, why did you put the PID parameter calculation *inside* the loop ?!
<mattb0ne> oh crap
<mattb0ne> I was cutting and pasting
<zmatt> Message must be a multiple of the max alignment, i.e. 4 bytes
<mattb0ne> did not meat to do that
<zmatt> otherwise if you have two adjacent messages, the second one would be misaligned
<mattb0ne> I will add another int16
<zmatt> the assert is a sanity-check I added exactly to catch mistakes like this :)
<mattb0ne> so the 16 bit alignment is for python and the 4 byte is for C
<mattb0ne> just so I have this clear
<zmatt> ??!?
<zmatt> no, all of the alignment requirements are to ensure structure compatibility between PRU and ARM
<mattb0ne> <zmatt> no, multiple of 2 bytes (16 bits)
<mattb0ne> <zmatt> not multiple of 16 bytes
<zmatt> the alignment requirement is exactly the same in all cases: fields need to be naturally aligned, i.e. a 4-byte (32-bit) integer needs to be 4-byte aligned, a 2-byte (16-bit) integer needs to be 2-byte aligned
<zmatt> this also implies a structure needs to be aligned in memory to whatever is the largest alignemnt required by any of its members
<zmatt> which also implies that if you have an array of some structure (e.g. Message), the size of the structure needs to be a multiple of its alignment
<mattb0ne> ok
<mattb0ne> and if I have a mix
<mattb0ne> just align to the biggest one so 4 byte since I have uint32?
<mattb0ne> my last major problem is the GPIO pin
<mattb0ne> not switching
<mattb0ne> I posted my overlay last night
<mattb0ne> I can change the pin state from python
<zmatt> hopefully this clarifies the issue... this is two consecutive Messages with the structure you were using: https://pastebin.com/raw/bMnN6NkX
<zmatt> I don't see gpio0.31 in your overlay
<zmatt> the gpio will need to be configured as output, whether by overlay or by software (e.g. python), before using PRU to control the output
<zmatt> also your logic doesn't make sense... you're setting direction based on whether the control_signal is negative or positive, yet you're limiting the control signal to range 600..4000 which is never negative
<zmatt> also, you seem to have forgotten about the right-shifting
<zmatt> I'm also confused why you're checking the raw position (not relative to the reference position) for something
<zmatt> also, why is your indentation such a terrible mess? :/
<mattb0ne> lol
<mattb0ne> good point on the direction
<zmatt> btw, does https://pastebin.com/raw/bMnN6NkX actually make it clear why your version of struct Message was a problem and why adding another 16-bit field to it fixes the problem?
<mattb0ne> yes it does
<mattb0ne> thanks
<zmatt> because I feel like I've had to explain alignment way too make times already
<mattb0ne> how did you make that box thing
<zmatt> *too many
<mattb0ne> htrml
<mattb0ne> html
<zmatt> those are just box drawing characters
<zmatt> it's plain text
<mattb0ne> I had an outdated overlay
<mattb0ne> this one has the motor pin I am interested in
<zmatt> if show-pins confirms the gpio is configured as output, pru *should* be able to change it just fine... but if it doesn't I can't diagnose that right now, gotto go to work
<mattb0ne> ok
<mattb0ne> np
<mattb0ne> thanks for the lesson
<mattb0ne> i ditched the bit shifting in favor of just the raw counts btw
<mattb0ne> so I am working with integers
<mattb0ne> basically the same thing
<mattb0ne> i just do it on my input file
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<zmatt> mattb0ne: ehh, that doesn't change that you currently have very little resolution in your coefficients and way more range in your output value than you need
<zmatt> the input value has no relevance here, that uses the same scale as the measured value (i.e. the encoder position), while I'm talking about the output value and coefficients
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<mattb0ne> so I should still shift
<mattb0ne> ok
<zmatt> well, it'll increase the resolution available for your coefficients
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<mattb0ne> is this a formal technique?
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<zmatt> uhh, yeah? effectively it's using fixed-point arithmetic
<mattb0ne> hahaha
<zmatt> ?
<mattb0ne> i am just imagined you saying that
<mattb0ne> and the incredulous look on your face when you typed it
<mattb0ne> just funny
<mattb0ne> that is all
<zmatt> basically, if you'd want to know the integer part of 12.345 * 120 you can calculate 12345 * 120 and then drop the last three digits, i.e. right-shift by three digits
<zmatt> this is the same, except of course using bits rather than digits
<zmatt> so if you right-shift your output value by 16 before using it as pwm value, you effectively give your coefficients 16 bits after the decimal point
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<mattb0ne> I see but I would need to scale it back to fit the PWM requirements
<mattb0ne> right?
<zmatt> ?
<zmatt> https://pastebin.com/jbRyDiUw or something
<zmatt> and of course then your coefficients need to be much larger, but you presumably still need to tune those anyway
<zmatt> and you'll generally want to start with small values
<zmatt> instead of using a periodic signal it would also be sensible to start with just following a single value that you read from shared memory (i.e. a signal of length 1) so you can see how the control loop responds to manual changes of the input value
<mattb0ne> good idea!
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<mattb000ne> ok the motor almost chopped my fingers
<mattb000ne> I need to figure out this timing thing
<mattb000ne> the motor just sits there until i nudge it forward then it takes off
<mattb000ne> I also think it is blowing through my checks as it seems to be runnning at rated speed. The cap I have should block that
<mattb000ne> not sure what is going on
<mattb000ne> need some food
<mattb000ne> also that pin is still not switching
<mattb000ne> as a stop gap I will control from python but it will be slower
<mattb000ne> break time!
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<Guest67> Too much trial and error in google answers on Debian and BBB. I want to hire $$ someone to give me a head start on configuring the BBB. Staff augmentation for my computer engineering dept, we do not have the right experience to jumpstart the BBB in a new project. Where does one go to hire a consultant?
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