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<archetech>
hmm Tony has declared rock5 as hopelessly broken mess ;)
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<archetech>
due to power and usb design and driver
<archetech>
wonder how radxa will respond
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> They'll fix it or they won't
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> they refuse to answer me about the broken rock pi 4 power input filter, too
<archetech>
ill wait for what odroid does soon
<archetech>
a couple of real american EE's and a marketer could own North Amer. arm market if they wanted too
<archetech>
usa version of odroid
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<lanefu>
archetech: yeah I wonder how many devices you'd have to sell to cover a half million in salaries + marketing + BOM and manufacturing costs to own the North American arm market
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<archetech>
not like odroid is all that
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Fortunately for my use case the USB-C debacle on rock 5 isn't really a problem for me. Most gonna be headless rubbing in a rack 24x7. As long nvme and Ethernet works well and board is stable I'm good
<archetech>
mine is desktop use I dont upgrade unless its a doubling of perf
<archetech>
r5 is not 2x > N2+
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yeah far away is it from that
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> And 2x on what front?
<archetech>
cores or benches
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> 16 gigs of ram is more than 2x what n2+ can have lol
<archetech>
I got 12 cores now so...
<archetech>
im not hurtiung for ram too bad when compiling just a couple pkgs
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> 12? You just combining compute and GPU cores for a single #
<archetech>
yes
<archetech>
I saw the bench report ya linked its not that great
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> I need to start saving my benches so I don't lose them lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> I need to order a matching stick of ram for my phytium it's been falling over
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> At random
<archetech>
my tiger lake laptop I5-4c/8t has 8gb ram and nvme ssd so thats another reason not to spend on r5
<archetech>
thats a little beast of a compiler
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<archetech>
MT Genio 1200 is coming out on sbc
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yeah that'll be an interesting one
<archetech>
theres a waiting market for a phytium type box with 2x its power nothing avail
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yeah the phytium folks are tinkering with some offerings but I haven't heard from them in a while
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Anyone got a snapdragon 480 on sbc?
<archetech>
ITX-3588J if it was 2x better that would be ideal
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Bummer since I had a little focus on phytium
<archetech>
and at that boards price im lookin at apple M2
<archetech>
which is quite interesting mac mini
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yeah frankly I'd probably get one if I hadn't been so passionate about dogfooding last year
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Armbian VM on mini is plenty of ARM Linux for building etc
<archetech>
gotta run linux native which is coming along
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> I'll regretfully admit it's coming along
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> I just looked at the number of sponsors he has
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> And yeah probably 20-30k of funding a month at this point
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> But I mean what are your choices
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Asahi or asahi
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> ?
<archetech>
yep its basically Arch linux
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yeah I still want a debian based distro since that is what my tooling is focused on
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<archetech>
no soup for you...come back one yr
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> @ManoftheSea by any chance have you benchmarked wireguard throughput on ebin v5
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<archetech>
im compiling kde plasma 6 on a arch vm still got some ways to go yet
<archetech>
porting is a slow process
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<lanefu>
Hunch is wireguard perf on ebin is probably terrible because minimal offloading available for that
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<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> negative. I suppose I could
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> I've not used wireguard.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> It's pretty lean but I think it's still sensitive to single thread perf and memory
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Everyone: I will review board designs for obvious stupidity for $2500 a board. I require full schematics and board artwork in Gerber format, and vendor kernel sources, will sign NDA. Subtle or indirect stupidity may get past my review.