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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Like you? Hmmmmmm
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Tkaisers criticism is helpful. ;-)
<Masterphi> is USB3 support kinda broken on armbian? I'm unable to see partitions on a hard drive, but works fine on a usb2 port. (Orangepi Pi3 LTS)
<archetech> you'll ignore his help too dont kid urself tony
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> His help is great info, just requires a whole working brain to apply changes, verify, test, make sure will be used going forward
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<stipa> Masterphi: try with an USB3 hub
<Masterphi> stipa: tried, no luck :/
<stipa> USB3 on my board sux too
<Masterphi> I have a powered usb3 hub to make sure it's got enough juice
<stipa> eventually you'll get used to stuff not working
<stipa> i use USB3 in USB2 mode
<stipa> i make sure there's no USB3 devices in it
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<Masterphi> it's just super lame. now i have an NVME drive with usb2 speeds. Even my network is faster than that :/
<stipa> some drivers also don't work well, it's not just the board to blame completely
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<Masterphi> I wonder if RaspberryPi has the same issue as OrangePi
<stipa> it doesn't, people boot from USB SSDs just fine at USB3 speeds
<stipa> now, about the stability and uptime of that i have no idea
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> bummer on usb3. i use a usb 3.0 SSD on my pineh64 (same SoC) on kernel 5.15.31. so hopefully its just device tree work that is all thats needed.
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> speaking of whole working brain. dont think i have one tonight. adios
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> seriously does anybody wanna take a look at try this fixes / recommendations to armbian-harwardware-optmize etc? https://armbian.atlassian.net/browse/AR-1262
<ArmbianHelper> AR-1262 [Bug] "armbian-hardware-monitor bad soctemp data" reported by Lane Jennison at 2022-07-13. Status: To Do
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [AR-1262] - Jira
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> the hard part is on a silver platter, just have to spend time understanding the related scripts / components
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<stipa> at least it's giving something
<stipa> maybe it's the sensor itself sending bad data
<stipa> not much you can do about that, if there's another working sensor in proximity it could be of interest
<stipa> it could be the bad code too
<stipa> oh, it's for all boards
<stipa> yeah, then it's the code in many cases
<stipa> you can do it lanefu, never give up
<stipa> never surrender
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> well if you look at the code, it has different conditionals for the different SoCs in order to pull the right data
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> so it's about understanding the theory around the pattern of solving for that and perpetuating that
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> amd maybe even explaining the process for solving for it for the future
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Armbian needs someone who can maintain that who isnt me
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> giving up--- is giving up on the community's willing to participate and me doin it myself lol
<stipa> i'm like barely in 1908's with my electronics skills
<stipa> low level and linux on top of it is way above my cognitive skolls
<stipa> skills*
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> hopefully you're not the only option lol
<stipa> 1980's*
<stipa> yeah, there's bunch of guys in here that created the history
<stipa> maybe they could help...
<c0rnelius> seems like a lot of BS just to get a thermal reading
<stipa> i guess the problem is the underlying hardware below that "driver"
<stipa> it's different for every soc/board
<stipa> it should be entered manually
<stipa> or it should be some fancy code that does that automatically and logically it should be bigger
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> I'd prefer fix for now and a refactor later with fresh opinionated approaches
<stipa> now, there's a trade off, doing it automatically or manually, automatically should make less work but it doesn't always work as intended
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Well armbian's whole thing is it does all the fiddly shit for the edge cases for these crazy boards and gives a consistent results. It's always gonna be the fact that custom shit has to be done
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Otherwise this project wouldn't need to exist
<stipa> yeah, but that is extra work
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Effectively think about it like a driver pattern where board support is effectively a "driver" for an SBC that provides the relevant abstraction
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Yes it is extra work. That's the point of the project
<stipa> you know what
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> To consolidate the extra work
<stipa> i think that's a job for the AI
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Not to eliminate
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> ROFL sure
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Get on that NPU training
<stipa> i guess it's the time to make some use of all that AI stuff
<stipa> replace all auto scripts with AI !!!
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> There ya go
<stipa> \o/
<c0rnelius> the variables and functions could be places in a file and sourced, only the # display bit needs to be in the script: https://paste.debian.net/1247497/
<ArmbianHelper> ^ debian Pastezone
<c0rnelius> seems to work fine for me on all my boards. as long as they are functioning properly.
<stipa> i think that "driver" is a level below that
<stipa> it should get readings directly from silicon
<stipa> and make those "varibales" available to the linux where your code steps in
<c0rnelius> i have like two versions of that. one that I use as a motd and one with more info I use to monitor which shows cpu usage and mem avail and used.
<stipa> i have in tmux mem and cpu usage
<ArmbianHelper> ^ GitHub - thewtex/tmux-mem-cpu-load: CPU, RAM, and load monitor for use with tmux
<stipa> no temps
<stipa> there's 'powerline' but i had some issues with it, gotta try that one again, it has temps and other stuff too
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> neat
<stipa> yeah, if tweaked right it's neat i guess, tweaking can take some time
<stipa> usually, the standard look is not what one wants
<stipa> then, the fun part starts of tweaking the configs...
<stipa> things not where they should be and stuff like that
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> could use testing and feedback on this https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/4005
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Update armbian-ramlog - keep files created by logrotate by JuergenBausa · Pull Request #4005 · armbian/build · GitHub
<stipa> i had problems with that, in 5.15.48-sunxi64 it seems like it's gone
<stipa> for some reason bug reports are missing kernel version
<stipa> they could be running anything
<stipa> but that problem is nasty, it crashes the board when it fills the ramlog
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Sigh, so far on Rock 5: The board is 74x100, so physically larger than PicoITX, and only the 2 mounting holes match the form factor white paper.
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<stipa> i've missed that SBC
<stipa> or not, Announced in January 2022
<stipa> preorder
<stipa> but, now it's model B
<stipa> one mounting hole for fan less, lol
<stipa> what a weird decision
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