10:53 <Momentum> Hi

10:53 <Momentum> imv doesn't seem to work in river for some reason. anyone knows why is that?

11:00 <ifreund> imv is pretty broken and seems mostly unmaintained

11:00 <ifreund> Ive reported bugs there that have gone unanswered for years

11:01 <ifreund> Ideally it would mostly work but just have visual glitches since imv makes frame perfection impossible, I dont recall the current state of things with latest river and imv though

11:02 <Momentum> ifreund: do you know of any good image viewer that i can use with river?

11:03 <Momentum> minimal would be good

11:03 <Momentum> something like sxiv and imv

11:08 <vyivel> mpv :)

11:11 <Momentum> mpv seems a bit much for viewing images, no?

11:12 <Momentum> and probably is not meant to be used for that

11:12 <vyivel> wearewaylandnow lists nomacs and swayimg, maybe try them

11:17 <Momentum> Thank you!

11:26 <ifreund> Ive mostly been using firefox, guess I'll try out MPV though

11:27 <ifreund> huh, phone thinks mpv should be capitalized

12:19 <leon-p> I've just been using eog, works reasonably well. if you use a dconf editor you can change some of its hidden config options which make it a bit nicer

12:30 <Momentum> i settled with loup. not the most minimal for sure, but it seems good

12:35 <leon-p> loup has better UI than eog, however I find it's sandboxed image loader to be quite slow and it often fails with useless error messages

12:36 <leon-p> f.e. it sometimes fails because it tries to spawn a command which is too long. truely bizarre

12:36 <leon-p> also it sometimes fails to read valid images

12:41 <Nickli> dont think i have heard of loup before

14:33 <sewn> need links

15:08 <basrandir> Hi all, is it possible to chord keybindings together using riverctl? Like Emacs does or what's possible with sxhkd?

15:22 <Nickli> think you can do something like it with modes

15:30 <basrandir> Oh yeah, I guess that makes it. I'll give it a shot

15:30 <Nickli> otherwise you can try out https://git.sr.ht/~shinyzenith/swhkd

15:36 <The_Buhs> ^^

15:39 <basrandir> yeah creating a new mode and mapping new keybinding there works to chord key sequences. It's a little more involved but potentially more powerful too. Thanks.

15:40 <Nickli> np

15:59 <leon-p> basrandir: one could f.e. create a small "compiler" which takes as input a list of emacs-esque key sequences like "S-x t 2" and then creates all the modes and individual mappings (as well as inserting a bunch of -g mappings to abort if you want to be true to emacs)

16:00 <leon-p> although, as with so many things right now, #1100 will deprecate that

16:29 <basrandir> oh yeah, a C-g mapping to "abort" and go back to normal mode would be a good idea.

16:41 <leon-p> basrandir: https://paste.sr.ht/~leon_plickat/cf2eca661de19335e7e646a0e9fcfb5aaff4cf0c

16:41 <leon-p> since river has no problem with the user trying to declare the same mode multiple times, the compiler can be incredibly simple

16:41 <leon-p> could probably be more elegant, but I am on a train so whatever

17:47 <basrandir> what I've done is to have regular press and release mappings for the same key in the new mode. The regular mapping does the action I want. The release mapping go back to normal mode.

20:02 <pinpoxIRC> Heyho, any chance to get window decorations in river? If planned, any issue I can follow on the progress?

20:13 <ifreund> pinpoxIRC: it's planned to make it possible for window managers to implement SSD, you can follow https://codeberg.org/river/river/pulls/1100

20:21 <vyivel> "river: delete wlr-layer-shell-v1 support", nice

20:25 <pinpoxIRC> ifreund: thanks, I looked through the issues but couldn't find it. I'll sub to this one then

20:26 <ifreund> vyivel: lowkey don't want to add it back but I probably should...

20:27 <vyivel> do river users not use bars/notification daemons/desktop widgets/region selection tools

20:29 <ifreund> vyivel: well yes they do, but these could in theory be implemented by the window manager using river_shell_suface_v1s

20:31 <ifreund> like I said, I probably need to add it back but the code was getting in my way too much at this stage of that branch so I dropped it for now

20:33 <pinpoxIRC> is the wlr-layer-shell-v1 support the decoration thingy?

20:33 <pinpoxIRC> or are we talking about undrelated stuff?

20:33 <ifreund> unrelated stuff

21:40 <__toor__> dunst vs fnott - are they comparable? would it make sense to go with fnott?