<novakane>
sentinel166: you don't have xwayland installed
<novakane>
you could also use the -no-xwayland flag
<sentinel166>
oh, ok, thanks.
<sentinel166>
... and how do I change the keyboard layout
<sentinel166>
?
<novakane>
sentinel166: see keyboard-layout in riverctl(1) man page
<sentinel166>
ok, I just added "riverctl keyboard-layout -rules evdev -model pc105 -variant latin9 fr" to the init file, and now the hotkeys don't work anymore.
<sentinel166>
I removed it, same result.
<sentinel166>
I see: "info(wlroots): [xwayland/server.c:108] Starting Xwayland on :2
<sentinel166>
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
<sentinel166>
> Warning: Unsupported maximum keycode 708, clipping.
<sentinel166>
> X11 cannot support keycodes above 255."
<sentinel166>
I dunno if it was there before.
<sentinel166>
dammit it's not very reliable nor informative so far...
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<novakane>
the unsupported keycode errors are nothing to worry this doesn't cause any problems
<novakane>
not sure why it doesn't works though maybe you have an errors somewhere else
<sentinel166>
sway indicates when hotkeys are invalid (or anything in the config file)
<novakane>
sentinel166: how do you start river?
<sentinel166>
"river" in a console or terminal emulator
<sentinel166>
like I did 10 minutes ago, when it worked
<novakane>
it seems to have problems with multiple sessions or something like that, e.g. "unable to lock lockfile /run/user/1000/wayland-1.lock, maybe another compositor is running"
<novakane>
also not sure why you are on the x11 backend and all your imput device name are probably wrong because of that
<novakane>
are you running it inside a X11 wm?
<sentinel166>
yes
<sentinel166>
but there are no other instances running... and it is the same when running from the console
<leon-p>
_2Kaleb: I recommend waiting for the WM protocol. After that all these things will be the domain of WMs, meaning a lot more things will be easiely possible
<leon-p>
right now if you want to attach meta-data like lables to tags, you have to keep that entirely in your external program which isn't very nice
<_2Kaleb>
What is the WM protocol?
<ifreund>
see the "Future Plans" section in the readme
<ifreund>
tldr; I want to move all window management policy out of the compositor process
<_2Kaleb>
But the answer to the question is "no"?
<ifreund>
there's no good way to do that currently, no
<_2Kaleb>
thanks
<ifreund>
the planned changes will provide a good way to do that in the future theoretically
<leon-p>
and many many more things. I have a list :]
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<sewn>
is there any possibility the river wiki's 'Reccomended software' document can be split into it's own independent page?
<sewn>
each compositor seems to have the issue of listing reccomended software
<sewn>
if something like awesome-wayland oculd be used
<ifreund>
sewn: feel free to lead the centralization effort :)
<ifreund>
I'm not opposed to linking to some external page if it is of high quality
<ifreund>
there's a lot of noise and stuff that's not relevant to end users there
<sewn>
in the page i linked?
<ifreund>
yes
<sewn>
how come
<leon-p>
for one, it lists things end users don't need, like libraries and toolits
<leon-p>
also it lists things that don't actually work / were never finished
<leon-p>
IMO it's not a well curated list
<sewn>
why not remove those said broken things or never finished
<sewn>
i wouldn't know them
<leon-p>
because I don't care about that list 🤷
<sewn>
also it is a 'awesome' list so libraries and toolkits can be quite handy to know when making programs
<sewn>
but you have a point
<sewn>
awesome.. let people find out its broken in their own way
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<sewn>
could atleast make an issue about it
<leon-p>
no one is entitled to my labour or time
<sewn>
awesome....
<leon-p>
if you care so much, do the work yourself.
<sewn>
i said i wouldn't know such broken apps
<leon-p>
click on the links, try them out
<leon-p>
if you then think "but that's too much work" then you hopefully understand my position :)
<CelestialCrafter>
bit of a dumb unrelated question, how do i search thru all of the whitequark channel logs at once? its only letting me search day by day
<leon-p>
good question, I don't think you can
<CelestialCrafter>
that sucks.. guess ill just keep searching then
<CelestialCrafter>
thanks!
<leon-p>
but I think you can ping her on mastodon and ask about it
<sewn>
leon-p: i diagree, because you said you already knew from a glance which 'dont actually work'
<sewn>
i assume you mean it wasn't audited
<leon-p>
the list absolutely isn't. anyone can just add links to it
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<leon-p>
and you are still not getting past the "no one is entitled to my labour" point, regardless of what you agree with, sorry
<leon-p>
I already keep an eye on the river wiki and curate a big setup guide
<leon-p>
and getting links removed from such a list is potentially a minefield of egos, so not something I want to do with my time
<sewn>
i still don't know what programs are not functional
<leon-p>
then either: (a) stay on the list of recommended software from the river wiki, which is curated, or (b) try them out