02:18 <leon-p> ifreund: btw, what do you think of sending error and warning log messages to syslog?

04:14 <linkydink> Hi sorry for the noob question but I just got a new laptop and have been wanting to switch to wayland, but the only thing keeping tied to X was bspwm

04:15 <linkydink> Is river a good replacement for bspwm? I understand it has the same server/client model and is configured with a shell script?

04:15 <linkydink> Would it be tedious/annoying to convert my sxhkd?

04:22 <plumeus> I would say, just give it a try. You can always run bspwm inside River, or have both installed side by side.

04:23 <plumeus> From the people that have used bspwm, I have heard River is similar to it.

04:50 <talismanick> If I'd like to install the latest release on Void, I need to grab a newer LLVM (or the self-contained Zig tarball) and wlroots-0.16?

04:50 <talismanick> I was surprised to see even Arch has wlroots-0.15 still

04:52 <talismanick> Speaking of which, how do I safely install both of them on my system? I'm not using Nix or Guix, so I'm not sure how I could have both, unless I installed the latest release as a self-contained Flatpak

04:53 <amyrat> i use void and use the zig binary and compiled wlroots and just git cloned river and compiled

04:54 <talismanick> amyrat: No other manual dependency setup?

04:55 <amyrat> dont think so

08:45 <scorpion2185[m]> linkydink: there is a clone of sxhkd in the recommended softawre https://github.com/waycrate/swhkd

08:45 <scorpion2185[m]> Nosrep: I can't see them at all on wev

08:46 <scorpion2185[m]> it's like those keys don't even exist

08:46 <scorpion2185[m]> * softawre https://github.com/waycrate/swhkd. I think that bspwm is similar to river

08:51 <scorpion2185[m]> >It also attempts to be a drop-in replacement for sxhkd, meaning your sxhkd config file is also compatible with swhkd.

16:05 <scorpion2185[m]> can i get lisgd work on river?

16:05 <scorpion2185[m]> s/work/working/

16:07 <leon-p> if it subscribes to raw libinput events and requires no integration on the server side, then probably yes

16:09 <scorpion2185[m]> i tried `lisgd -g "1,LR,notify-send swiped lr"` but I cannot see any output

16:09 <scorpion2185[m]> the device must be /dev/input/touchscreen

16:09 <leon-p> this seems like an issue the lisgd people can help you better with

16:10 <scorpion2185[m]> an issue on github?

16:11 <scorpion2185[m]> any idea about not working vol -/+ on river? no output on wev

16:11 <leon-p> github issues generally are for bug reports / feature requests, not for user questions, however they may run their project differently

16:12 <leon-p> if you don't see output on wev, that means that river probably already has a mapping for that key and consumes the event instead of sending it to the client

16:12 <leon-p> The names of the audio keys are XF86AudioRaiseVolume and XF86AudioLowerVolume

16:13 <leon-p> the default init already sets them up, if that does not work, maybe you are missing the program used to adjust pulse audio

16:14 <scorpion2185[m]> oh right I had a typo on commands to start PW-wireplumber

16:14 <leon-p> that assumes you are using pulse audio of course, if you are using pipewire, you may need to switch the commands out to the matching wpctl / pw-metadata ones

16:15 <scorpion2185[m]> pipewire-pulse provides compatibility with PA tools, PA waybar modules now works

16:17 <leon-p> mostly, but sometimes pipewire sinks don't get translated to pulse sinks. My DAC for example shows up in pipewire and works well, but if I open pavucontrol it's not there

18:09 <Nosrep> scorpion2185[m]: i tried wev on my setup and volume keys didn't show up either

18:09 <Nosrep> but the volume still changed

18:09 <Nosrep> so wev might not be able to capture it if its bound by river

18:09 <Nosrep> but idk ur case might be different

19:14 <n0r> scorpion2185: Matrix reactions are not visible on IRC ;)

19:32 <p00f1> https://github.com/riverwm/river/issues/206#issuecomment-860838377 does this mean the pending change wont improve battery life?

19:44 <Nosrep> any cpu usage improvement should help battery

19:45 <Nosrep> i think the only part is referring to freeze

19:51 <leon-p> ok, so now apparently zig refuses to see a library that pkg-config correctly identifies, despite zigs build system using the pkg-config tool. Oh and worked well twenty minutes ago.

19:51 <leon-p> this is fun

20:16 <leon-p> ok, it links the right one, but for the one cInlcude in zig-wlroots/src/version.zig it pulls the wrong one

20:16 <leon-p> at least I can hardcode that, but still annoying

21:04 <leon-p> anyway, I implemented the requested interface changes to the keyboard-layout command, the PR is ready for another round of review