00:10 <Nosrep> I think it is

16:37 <ifreund> waylock has gained a few minor security improvements on master branch if anyone wants to build from source and test, I'll be tagging a release in the next week or so once Ive used it a bit longer myself :)

19:10 <plumeus> I was testing waylock master for a week or two until my laptop died on me. Coincidence? /s

21:24 <lordmzte> hey everyone! i just got river set up, and im still getting used to tags. one thing i havent quite understood is how tags on outputs work. what are the default tags for multiple outputs (monitors) and what would happen if a window shares a tag with multiple monitors?

21:27 <n0r> A window always is on one output. Tags don't matter here. Moving windows between outputs is not controlled by tagging but independently of it.

21:27 <lordmzte> ah i see!

21:30 <lordmzte> when looking at river configs, i always end up asking myself why its not super slow to invoke riverctl a bunch of times. after all, shouldnt it be inefficient to constantly open and close connections to the river server instead of reusing one?

21:31 <lordmzte> ive thought about this before, and i think i might write my config in zig because of this one day.

21:36 <n0r> The river config file is called init and not loop for a reason ;) Why care if starting and initializing river takes a second more or less? It does not affect the actual usage.

21:39 <lordmzte> im the kinda guy that cannot tolerate insignificant inefficiencies :)

21:39 <lordmzte> how do i know if a window is running under Xwayland?

21:43 <n0r> The stupid-funny way is to run xeyes and see if it detects moving the cursor over the window in question. I'm sure there are "proper" ways of doing it but I never bothered to learn those 😄

22:15 <lordmzte> are transparent windows supported?

22:15 <lordmzte> my own glfw-based transparent windows is opque

22:17 <n0r> The only windows with transparency I use are foot, work great.

22:18 <lordmzte> ah wait, alacritty also works :/

22:18 <lordmzte> erm... i blame glfw!

22:23 <lordmzte> how do i make windows with a certain app_id float by default?

22:28 <n0r> man riverctl /filter

22:29 <lordmzte> oh thank you!

22:32 <lordmzte> what bar do yall recommend for river?

22:37 <n0r> I don't use any.

22:37 <n0r> But there is a list in the wiki.

22:38 <novakane> waybar is probably the most used, yambar is nice, lot of choices though https://github.com/riverwm/river/wiki/Recommended-Software#status-bars

22:39 <n0r> Man I was just copying the link :D

22:40 <lordmzte> thanks!

22:44 <novakane> hehe you talked about the wiki I send a link that's open source we helped each other :P