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<rneese>
hey all
<rneese>
I have a question
<rneese>
do you want desktop images loaded with apps or generic desktops or a cli img with a tool to install desktops and add some extra configuration ?
<rneese>
I am trying to find what your guys prefer
<Armand>
Personally, both.
<rneese>
there are 3 options?
<rneese>
what 2 do you prefer
<Armand>
I read that as 2.
<Armand>
"desktop images loaded with apps AND generic desktops"... "cli img with a tool to install desktops"
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<rneese>
ok option 1) Generic Desktop 2) desktop with full apps 3) Cli with tool to select and install desktop
<jrtc27>
4) fix issues with other distros so standard distro installers / live images / etc work
<rneese>
the installer was mot ment for arm/riscv
<rneese>
as the dont use usb/cd to install
<rneese>
so having a debian builder thet debootstarps a img fo these boards is the right way to go
<rneese>
its easier and faster
<rneese>
also with most boards having mmc/emmc for the most part you have to have a img like net load img to install to emmc ffrom network
<rneese>
most boards dont usb boot as its not in the bootloader
<jrtc27>
you can install freebsd from a usb stick on a hifive unmatched
<jrtc27>
and I would hope that eventually usb booting works on the visionfive 2
<jrtc27>
specifically so people can treat it like a computer
<rneese>
as it stands now its not there
<jrtc27>
sd cards suck and nobody's writing a live image to an nvme drive
<jrtc27>
I know
<rneese>
and nore is nvme boot
<jrtc27>
for now
<rneese>
o by the way just designed a new desktop case for the vf2
<rneese>
once I get the first case printed and tested I will post for all
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<rneese>
also for those with the vf2. you wan a 10w if all your going to do is run emmc/mmc
<rneese>
but you will need a 30+w if you want nvme
<rneese>
I will have a board you can get gerbers when ready to relocate the nvme from the bottom to the top
<rneese>
a L shap board pushing the nvme off to the right side of the board facing up
<jrtc27>
20W is a hell of a lot of power for a single NVMe drive
<jrtc27>
most drives should be significantly under 10W
<rneese>
yeah I agree but it seems to need it
<rneese>
nope
<rneese>
have tried
<rneese>
went through 4 power bricks till I got to my anker 35w and it worked fine
<rneese>
no issues with nvme and the board ran fine
<rneese>
so I think its a design flaw
<jrtc27>
maybe the PCIe controller is just power hungry compared to the rest of the SoC
<jrtc27>
that wouldn't surprise me
<rneese>
agree
<jrtc27>
but then anything else hanging off PCIe would see an increase in power draw
<jrtc27>
(USB?)
<rneese>
I have a 64 and soom a 128g emmc I plan to use
<rneese>
right now I have the fan/heatsync but I am looking for a low profile heatsync
<rneese>
or a fan/heatsync that quieter
<Tenkawa>
jrtc27: I have my
<Tenkawa>
er
<Tenkawa>
VF2 plugged up with a NVMe and USB3 and ethernet running on
<Tenkawa>
DC 5.1V 3A output
<Tenkawa>
15.3W maximum output power
<Tenkawa>
RPI4 power supply
<Tenkawa>
Runs fine
<rneese>
odd when I put nvme on mine 1 use s a 10w/20/35 and nvme worked best with 35 no issues but I will get a 15.3 unit and retest
<Tenkawa>
I use Sandisk Corp WD Black SN750... not sure which of the spectrum they are on power
<rneese>
it might have been the diff anker supplies
<Tenkawa>
rneese: these rpi4 ps's are very nice.. I don't use them often though vs my bench supply though because of the cables and need for sep wall plugs
<Tenkawa>
they only cost 7.95 too
<rneese>
well I need to find a power pwrbrk to put in my new designed case
<rneese>
that then can have a barrel connector
<Tenkawa>
there was a really nice inexpensive thin onea while back
<Tenkawa>
I cant remember the name of it
<rneese>
ahh
<Tenkawa>
though
<Tenkawa>
it would fit a case nicely
<rneese>
and I have to finish the board that I made to relocate the nvme from under the board
<rneese>
32mm is the herght in the case
<rneese>
so if you find it let me know
<rneese>
but I do want to make a full page on this so people can if they want make a small reto type pc
<rneese>
if I can open up the usb-c port and use the poe pins for power then I can do more
<rneese>
I also have yo make a board to put the gpio header out the backon the rev 2 of the case