sorear changed the topic of #riscv to: RISC-V instruction set architecture | https://riscv.org | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/riscv
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<mmind00> drewfustini: wow that sound pretty cool
<mmind00> (the c910 board)
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<conchuod> palmer: can I take changes to bindings/riscv alongside my dt stuff if they are directly related?
<conchuod> eg. adding a compatible to microchip.yaml
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<palmer> I guess that's more of a Rob question, but I think he generally likes to keep those going in together. It's OK with me
<conchuod> palmer: the application path would usually be via riscv for that stuff anyway
<palmer> I pretty much just ask every time I'm touching some other tree
<conchuod> That's what I mean, it's not another tree right? Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/ belongs to riscv AFAIU
<palmer> OK, I think it belongs to Rob and he regularly defers the merging to me
<palmer> so I'm personally fine if the bindings that your other DT stuff depends on goes in via your tree, but I'd just want to make sure Rob is too
<conchuod> But ye, I'll make sure I have confirmation before taking them.
<palmer> ya, that's generally the way to go
<palmer> just describe what you're going to do so everyone knows what's up, and then go from there
<conchuod> SGTM
<palmer> yep, I'd guess that Rob says to keep that all together
<conchuod> Thanks :)
<palmer> looks like Rob and Krzyszotf are on the To, so they should see it
<palmer> they're usually pretty fast about this stuff and pretty easy to sync up with about what tree things target
<conchuod> Yup, was just wondering if you were okay with it before even asking them
<palmer> I'm OK if they are ;)
<palmer> it's generally easier to keep the bindings with the DT files, as splitting them up just leads to a cylce of warnings in the various sub-trees
<palmer> and I don't see any reason to change the status quo here
<conchuod> Warnings make my heart sink at this point!
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<palmer> yep, and when it's just due to splitting the patch sets it's just a headache
<palmer> best to check, though, as sometimes there's other reasons for splitting stuff up that is more important than the warnings
<palmer> what I do is keep around a tree (called "not-for-next") that contains all the stuff that's necessary to make my trees build cleanly, and then I have that merged in locally for testing
<palmer> it's a bit of a headache, but I have at least one patch every merge window so I guess I'm used to it
<conchuod> I figured it is bindings + drivers (and maybe the dts unless there's potential conflicts)
<palmer> so I guess maybe Arnd knows better than I do here, I'd generally err towards keeping bindings+dts+drivers all together -- that can be a bit of a headache, though, as it starts to touch a few trees
<palmer> IIUC that's one of the things the SOC tree is aimed at fixing, but then there's more trees involved ;)
<arnd> palmer: in the soc tree, I keep the dts files separate from everything else, mainly to avoid merge conflicts
<conchuod> ^ ye, that's what's "making" me take my dts stuff myself.
<palmer> OK, so you take the DTs on that branch without the bindings yet?
<conchuod> I am confused now.. I don't take bindings at all as they go to the driver trees.
<palmer> sorry, I thought you were talking about taking bindings that your DTs depend on?
<conchuod> I was asking specificaly about taking the riscv bindings like the board and soc definitions in Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/microchip.yaml
<palmer> yes, and the dependency there is the DT, right?
<conchuod> Ye, the dts needs them to not generate warnings
<palmer> ya, so I think that makes sense to take together
<conchuod> Right. Sorry if I asked that all confusingly
<palmer> but for drivers there's three trees: the bindings, the DTS (which depend on the bindings), and the drivers (which depend on the bindings too)
<conchuod> Bindings go to the driver trees in that case
<palmer> ya, I think that's a reasonable way to go -- but then the DTS needs to go somewhere too, so it's either conflicts (likely if there's multiple drivers in flight) or warnings (if I take the DTS before the bindings) or some sort of shared tag
<conchuod> I think having the warnings there is unavoidable. I think the warnings there is normal
<palmer> ya, I think most folks take the warnings
<conchuod> Shared tags for dts would just be a drag on people
<conchuod> I think the reasonable thing to do when checking for new warnings in that situation is to check against -next
<conchuod> At least, that is what I've been doing.
<palmer> ya, it's just sort of a manual process at that point
<palmer> no big deal, just one more thing to trip folks up
<conchuod> On the subject of warnings, 1 left in -next...
<conchuod> soonTM
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