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<InPhase>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao7dnX8vfrc This was shown to me on ##physics. It's a brilliant innovation on the classic printed hand drill design. All we need now is an OpenSCAD version of this so the supported bit sizes can be adjusted. :)
<othx>
InPhase linked to YouTube video "First 3D printed straight one-way manual hand drill in the world" => 1 IRC mentions
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<J1A8410>
InPhase there is something like that in AdventK 2022 (twister) irc
<InPhase>
J1A8410: Going the same direction on both push and pull though? I hadn't seen that before anywhere for something like that.
<InPhase>
Although I'll note that I tried to print it as-is, and the design seems to have a defective lack of clearance tolerances on the moving bits. This is why we need everything to be programmatic scad.
<J1A8410>
the design vor adventC2022 should be .. however there is no bit and no cage around the two moving discs
<InPhase>
Ok.
<InPhase>
So the motion principle, but not the drill.
<InPhase>
Regardless, if I want one I will apparently have to redesign in OpenSCAD with a standard clearance parameter. :)
<J1A8410>
there is a "clearance" parameter extra for you Ü
<InPhase>
How was that print-in-place? Were there supports on the outside?
<InPhase>
Looks like most of the required need except for the cage, but I usually have had bad luck on the smoothness of print in place mechanical motion parts. They seem to either stick or need a pretty large clearance.
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<teepee>
people have odd views on how development is working
<InPhase>
teepee: I suppose it's unthinkable to people that open source even works without hierarchical planning. :) Thus they assume that it must have it.
<teepee>
yah, I guess
<InPhase>
The classic view is that without it, no one would want to take out the garbage. But sure enough, someone wrote a garbage collector.
<teepee>
after all it's a strange thing that multiple people can actually work towards a goal, even though it's not that clearly defined
<InPhase>
The truth is I did not want to write a garbage collector. Although I was part of the work proving to my sadness that we needed one and then I sighed forlornly. But it just sort of aligns that with time the important things catch someone's interest or motivations.
<J1A8410>
InPhase yeas print in place is annoying, or at least you get better results without..
<teepee>
that's the cool thing, sometimes people even get motivated to do stuff that does not seem to be that interesting, but luckily interesing is different for everyone
<InPhase>
Yeah. Binary stl export was actually somewhat interesting for me because for inexplicable reasons I like fiddling with bits sometimes and binary formats sometimes. There's honestly no good logic to that. :)
<teepee>
:)
<teepee>
exactly
<InPhase>
Which reminds me I have a bit of code hiding somewhere on my hard drive to finish up involving that major use<> optimization. I think I was midway on that and then got sidetracked.
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<InPhase>
It's in one of my 26 openscad repository copies.
<teepee>
in other news, Models @ MakeWithTech donated $500 so we probably should get a fancy new server sometime ;-)
<InPhase>
Oh, that's pretty cool.
<teepee>
he also wrote a mail about new features, it seems to grow quite a bit both with users and features
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<InPhase>
I guess that leaves the question of, server for what thing?
<teepee>
like multi-file support and maybe soon also version support
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<teepee>
replace the current one that hosts everything like downloads and other workflow stuff
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<teepee>
maybe even supporting a WASM based playground and such stuff
<InPhase>
There was talk at one point about a CI server, but I suppose you got all that sorted with the free services in the end.
<teepee>
yeah, I'm not sure that's helping a lot, yes, it's annoying if they change stuff, but maintaining the whole server takes time too
<teepee>
something to run performance tests would be cool though
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<teepee>
haha, we are watched
<teepee>
just now a new mail came in, subject: CircleCI: Update to setup_remote_docker
<InPhase>
There has also been talk about trying to do some sort of approach to a library repo. One approach to that would involve a custom server.
<teepee>
yeah, not sure I want to be responsible for that ;-)
<InPhase>
As for maintaining, I can chip in to help keep a server in operating order. Just as long as I don't end up with primary responsibility for webdev or build systems, because those are not very enjoyable. :)
<teepee>
I just found my Debian 1.2 CD
<teepee>
I wonder if that still works
<InPhase>
Setting up and reconfiguring a webserver and such to various needs is not so bad though.
<Scopeuk>
teepee for a given definition of "works", I suppose they haven't dropped bios boot support yet
<teepee>
well, 1st in the sense the CD is still readable
<Scopeuk>
I suppose you have to start somewhere :P
<InPhase>
General system administration though is a moderately enjoyable side-task for me.
<Scopeuk>
I suppose that burnable discs degrade over time
<teepee>
last one that fits to 1 CD including source, the next version 1.3 came as 2 CDs
<teepee>
hand labled by the debian boot disk maintainer at the time
<teepee>
good old gcc-2.7.2
<InPhase>
Raise your hand if you remember the epoch moment which was the start of "Please insert disk 2 to continue installation" for Debian. :)
<teepee>
also debian 2.0 on 8 CDs
<InPhase>
Gone were the days where you could receive one floppy in the mail and then have Linux.
<teepee>
there you go, debian 2.0, 13.12.2000 so I suspect that happened somewhere christmas 2000
<teepee>
but yes, slackware floppies came before that
<InPhase>
For my first Linux installation I filled out a web form, and then a package arrived with a Slackware, a Redhat, and a Debian floppy.
<InPhase>
I tried all three and then became a Debian user.
<InPhase>
I don't know who these volunteers were who were mailing out these floppies, but thanks to whoever they were. :)
<InPhase>
I've tried to estimate how many actual Linux users there were that year in 1994, but all I can deduce is that it was small. The first UK-wide Linux user group occurred that year, and they obtained "a room" in a computing center for the meeting.
<Scopeuk>
I first used Linux much later (granted in 94 I was still in a my early single digits) probably around 2003/4 mucking about with knoppix and debian on old hardware (with webmin of all things) back when I had no idea what I didn't know
<Scopeuk>
fun times
<InPhase>
I was 14 at the time, and just old enough to make the audacious choice to try it out. :)
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<linext_>
the trick was to run it in Session ID 2 as a regular user, click the popup so it doesn't occur again, then run the program in Session ID 0 so it can't be seen
<linext_>
always running it as a regular User, not the SYSTEM user
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<J1A8410>
these slicer seem to have very different settings .. 2-15$ and 2-15g and 0.5-5 h Ü
<linext_>
yea, i need to do more testing
<linext_>
kisslicer is a little weird because it takes settings from an .ini file