<fancsali[m]>
J1A8475: Fair point: got into the habit of separating the day into morning/afternoon in the anglo-saxon way... :)
<fancsali[m]>
Even in my mother-tongue, we only say morning when it's early morning - not to mention the fact that I completely ignored time-zones...
<J1A8475>
wonder how touch-pad friendly is possible as shift already allow pan and rotate on other axis, so ctrl to switch mousebuttons?
<J1A8475>
you probably will only view and use customizer on tablets - so maybe some demo mode that switch into that and minimize editor
<J1A8475>
i mean there is already a setting to switch mouse buttons
<fancsali[m]>
<J1A8475> "i mean there is already a..." <- Yes. I've seen that; it's still a bit odd, because one uses both pan and rotate a fair bit.
<fancsali[m]>
<J1A8475> "you probably will only view..." <- If you ask me, I'd rather not have several modes...
<J1A8475>
1 finger rotate, 2 finger move, 2finger distance pan .. isn't this the normal interface so maybe this can be added to the axis where already joystick and 3D-mouse is possible
<fancsali[m]>
<J1A8475> "wonder how touch-pad friendly is..." <- Hm. You're actually right. Didn't spot that one.
<fancsali[m]>
Well, ultimately we could have a few drop-downs in the settings where one would choose which modifier (Ctrl, Alt, Shift, Left Mouse, Right Mouse, ...) triggers which feature (Pan, Rotate, Rotate in Screen Plane).
<fancsali[m]>
But then again, that's a tad bit more work...
<J1A8475>
or using some mouse emulator for touchpads
<J1A8475>
normaly your touchpad should have 3 finger tapping option
<fancsali[m]>
Yeah, that's a way around it; but a bit hacky.
<fancsali[m]>
Haven't done Qt since uni; provided I manage to find the courage, I reckon PRs are welcome...
<fancsali[m]>
<J1A8475> "1 finger rotate, 2 finger move,..." <- That's a good shout.
<J1A8475>
windows precision driver should take care of that - not sure about mac or linux
<fancsali[m]>
J1A8475: Windows is pretty much the only OS that I am not that familiar with...
<fancsali[m]>
I doubt, Mac's are very flexible in this regard; and on Linux it will definitely come down to the DE one's using...
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<Scopeuk>
fancsali[m] I imagine that OSX will have some level of basic multi touch available as the macs have been using multi touch track pads for a while, even if it came down to capturing vertical and horizontal scroll events
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<fancsali[m]>
<Scopeuk> "fancsali I imagine that OSX will..." <- It absolutely has; I am just saying, it's not the most ergonomic thing to keep touching the touch-pad with 3 fingers while depressing it and trying to precisely move around...
<fancsali[m]>
I think there's a misunderstanding here: it does right-click=two-finger-click. That works fine.
<fancsali[m]>
What I am proposing is a more ergonomic way of going about this; that would also suite a coding workflow with hands on the keyboard anyway while being easy on the fingers at the same time.
<Scopeuk>
I saw the ticket, I was musing on what we can do to make life easier, but as you suggested binding modifier keys to switch operating move could work
<fancsali[m]>
Yeah, your musings are absolutely valid. And they do work fine. I just find people who code and go for a script-CAD solution would prefer modifier+mouse to multi-click.
<Scopeuk>
I've always used it on desktop so using mouse + left or mouse + right feels fairly natural. a trackpad is a different thing entirely though. there are outstanding issues to make the entire interface more configurable
<Scopeuk>
this would probably fall into that or a precursor to it
<fancsali[m]>
Right. Does make sense. Especially if one - like me - keeps switching between FreeCAD and OpenSCAD regularly...
<fancsali[m]>
... makes life easier.
<fancsali[m]>
I - somehow - end up mucking about on my laptop all the time. Perhaps because I don't own a desktop? ;)
<Scopeuk>
Similar reasoning to why I always use it on desktop
<teepee>
what's a desktop?
<Scopeuk>
it the big brick that goes under your desk to warm everything up
<teepee>
I only have lots of raspis sitting everywhere :P
<Scopeuk>
sat on a fortune! can't find those at the moment
<teepee>
yeah, indeed, the pi4 situation is really crazy
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<teepee>
as for mouse handling, I guess we really need to make that configurable, same with the keyboard stuff which is mostly in place already
<fancsali[m]>
Is the price and the availability still messed uP?
<J1A84>
there is some more cleanup possible - but as PoC you can see the higher speed - even more with lazy union and fast CSG (preferences)
<lauraaa>
YEAH
<lauraaa>
yeah*
<lauraaa>
its way faster
<lauraaa>
the last thing i tried on mine, took 4 mins to render
<lauraaa>
and convert
<J1A84>
with some work it would be possible to put multiple braille blocks into one polyhedron but maybe that isn't necessary
<lauraaa>
did you build that?
<J1A84>
yes
<lauraaa>
you are so smart
<lauraaa>
dayum
<J1A84>
nice to hear Ü thx
<lauraaa>
what does the commented part do?
<J1A84>
that pos= ?
<J1A84>
just a residue from an earlier approach to calculate the positions .. when i change something i always make a duplicate first .. (and forget to delete it later)
<lauraaa>
ohhh
<J1A84>
the earlier version calculated the dot distance as 3rd or 4th of the box size .. but then i thought this is not too usefull
<lauraaa>
man, i would love to use that instead, but it's so confusing to me
<J1A84>
you can just replace your current module with Letter (dots) .. as it uses the same input format
<J1A84>
just copy the module into your code
<J1A84>
if you just ask i may clear some of the confusion
<J1A84>
(i finde my code also often very confusing)
<fancsali[m]>
<othx> "workflow is https://xkcd.com/117..." <- Brilliant! I busted out laughing, like a startled horse... ;)
<fancsali[m]>
<Scopeuk> "fancsali I last looked last week..." <- Thank God, I plan to buy one of those. Can't justify another normal RPi, already have 2.
<fancsali[m]>
Good old days, when I bought a pair with all bells and whistles for 30 quid – new old stock RPi2 when the 4 came out, but still.
* teepee
hopes for a rpi5 (that can be actually bought) at some point
<teepee>
the rpi4 is almost good enough for "desktop" use, e.g. I'm running one as youtube/jitsi/teams/citrix station
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