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<teepee> :(
<Jack2133> teepee?
<Jack2133> jakesays  so the question is what is limiting your speed
<teepee> door 24 did not work automatically, not sure why
<Jack2133> oh
<teepee> oh, typos?
<Jack2133> now it does
<teepee> failed to change mode of '/home/openscad/www/advent-calendar-2021/Decompositon' from 0000 (---------) to 0000 (---------)
<teepee> missing "i"
<Jack2133> compost?
<teepee> compost on?
<ccox> 3mf download works, but scad file still won't download
<Jack2133> or compost off
<teepee> ccox: do a full refresh, it needs to reload the index file
<ccox> I did a full cache wipe and reload
<teepee> hmm, works for me
<ccox> still 404 after a second reload
<Jack2133> the 3mf is a Christmas joke - i am not trying to print that
<ccox> that link works
<Jack2133> the i
<ccox> and reloads aren't fixing the spelling
<teepee> then it's loading the wrong index file
<ccox> ok, restarting the browser cleared it
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<ccox> somehow clearing local cache and reloading didn't
<InPhase> Jack2133: It just needs some supports! :)
<Jack2133> InPhase and you need to print it big .. i mean really big .. what is the linewidh
<InPhase> Jack2133: 0.01mm
<Jack2133> BIIIIIIIGGGGG
<InPhase> Or just get a tiny nozzle.
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<Jack2133> double photon printing
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<InPhase> And with the calendar fully open, Merry OpenSCAD Christmas hour everyone. :)
<Jack2133> and a happy new year (that already started with the Solstitium)
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<teepee> \o/
<Jack22> Merry SCADmas  Ü
<Jack22> 163 downloads of the #scadvent designs on prusa  till now
<InPhase> Jack22: You're missing the swirly ornament. Clearly things you can print and gift as ornament presents are the most popular in that list. :)
<teepee> yep, that makes sense
<InPhase> Which probably holds true for another 16 hours or so.
<Jack22> oh yes  i had that posted earlier .. so another 33 on top
<Jack22> what do you mean we can not release that in two weeks ?..
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<Jack22> coupon and voucher are probably a result of bad timing
<gbruno> [github] t-paul pushed 3 modifications (Update footer.). https://github.com/openscad/openscad.github.com/commit/785e494adb939e9424d87a7b85518be7ff2fcedc
<teepee> so any name suggestions for the benchmarking repo, not sure if openscad-benchmarks is the best choice, seems a bit too narrow focused
<Jack22> well the cadhub link would work if i hadn't a misspelling in
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<teepee> oops, not just christmas day, but also day of typos :)
<peepsalot> teepee, "openscad-benchmarks" seems fine to me. what else do you envision ending up there that would make it too narrow focused?
<Jack22> and cadhub can't handle  × character
<Jack22> and now i can't change it anymore :(
<peepsalot> some other words to maybe consider in the name: performance, profiling, reports?
<peepsalot> or throw in suite? "openscad-benchmark-suite"
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<ccox> (throw in "cloud", "Machine learning" and "blockchain" and you could get funding :-P )
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<teepee> peepsalot I was thinking not just benchmark but also regression for bigger projects
<teepee> or "real world designs"
<teepee> automatic NFT creation for each successful test :)
<ccox> ROFL
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<Nohus> Hello, I have a model that previews fine, but does not render (just freezes), how can I debug that?
<ccox> does it really freeze, or take 30 minutes?
<teepee> and what $fn values are set?
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<Nohus> None, so the defaults. I have 2 SVG files, when I import and linear extrude one, it works and renders, then I import and linear extrude the other, it also works and renders. But when I have both, it won't render, even though they are not touching each other so it doesn't feel like it should affect anything? Why would they work in separation but not
<Nohus> together?
<teepee> because alone there's no processing needed at all
<Nohus> I see. So how can I find out what's wrong?
<teepee> with both it will do a union on the 2 objects, which can be quite slow if there's lots of vertices
<teepee> so if the SVG are very detailed, it could take long time to process
<teepee> what's the goal, just have those 2 separate designs in a STL file?
<peepsalot> there was also some changes to SVG $fn handling in recent dev snapshots, which might help
<teepee> not really, as it does not allow to reduce the resolution
<teepee> what would help is the optimizations in the fast-csg branch as IIRC that does bounding box checks
<teepee> or lazy union if there's no other processing needed and the 2 things are separate anyway
<peepsalot> Nohus, if the linear_extrudes are on the same plane, then I would try union() in 2d before linear_extrude of the whole group
<Nohus> That does actually work, but it's not what I need.
<Nohus> I want to stack them on top of each other, ideally.
<teepee> aww, that was a good idea
<teepee> stack as in merge the 2 to a single object?
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<Nohus43> Hmm, it disconnected me.
<Nohus43> All right it does actually render, I just had to wait 15 minutes.
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<Nohus43> I would be fine waiting for the render, but as soon as I do some operation with them together the preview also has to render that long...:/
<teepee> that should not happen
<teepee> well, not quite true, it depends on the operation, there are some that need the mesh to be calculated
<Nohus43> I need a "resize()"
<Nohus43> On both of them together.
<Nohus43> And that causes it to use the long render.
<teepee> yep, that's one of those
<teepee> can you resize before?
<teepee> even better in 2d and change the extrude?
<Nohus43> Oh yeah resizing before the extrude works.
<Nohus43> Is there a way to pre-render a part of the model so it doesn't have to re-render every time if it's not modified?
<Nohus43> If I split my model into parts, save 1 part as STL, and then load the STL in another, then presumably the other model won't have to render what was in the STL, right?
<Nohus43> Only the end result from the STL.
<teepee> you can try that, but export/import of STL can be troublesome
<teepee> if you add render() linear_extrude() ... it will force calculation of that part and cache it
<teepee> but if the slow part is the final union that may not help too much
<Nohus43> The "final union" is only final for now, I want to add more things to the model. So if there was a way to cache that part it would be great.
<Nohus43> If I wrap the slow union in a "render()" it will cache it?
<teepee> yes, unless it is too big to fit into cache (which is a config option)
<peepsalot> yes, but also union of additional objects will also be slow
<peepsalot> unless using the aforementioned lazy-union feature from dev snapshots
<Nohus43> After that union I wanted to "difference()" something from the entire thing, so I guess that lazy union wouldn't help.
<peepsalot> render() is only really helpful in a small percentage of cases, eg where the preview is slow to update when orbiting/zooming with the mouse (because caching of CGAL operations is already automatic)
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<InPhase> teepee: openscad-qualcheck ?
<InPhase> teepee: That's convenient enough to refer to on a regular basis. "Let's see how qualcheck does with that change."
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<Jack22> teepee do you want the cadhub links in 2021 advent calender?
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<ccox> either it is very, very quiet today.... or I'm on the wrong side of a net split.
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<peeps[zen]> i imagine people are spending time with their families. humbug!