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<tmlind_> freemangordon: ok great, good to hear. seems like the way to go for now for m-l until the issues discussed are sorted out
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: not all items in status menu appear
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<freemangordon> please make a new release
<freemangordon> ok, we have some clue:
<freemangordon> Oct 4 08:14:00 localhost DSME: Process '/usr/bin/hildon-status-menu' with pid 2625 exited with signal 6 and restarted with pid 2771
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<freemangordon> tmlind_: I assume you will fix mctrl properly upstream, right?
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<tmlind_> freemangordon: yup this is something that needs fixing upstream, will take a look when i get a chance. not sure what all it might take though..
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> hmm, why no coredump is generated on sigabort?!?
<freemangordon> ** (hildon-status-menu:2670): WARNING **: 08:56:17.001: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/hildon-desktop/libprofilesx-sp-plugin.so: undefined symbol: _profile_changed_marshal_VOID__BOOLEAN_BOOLEAN_STRING_BOXED
<freemangordon> ** (hildon-status-menu:2670): DEBUG: 08:56:19.370: load_plugin_idle. Try to load plugin_id: clock-plugin.desktop
<freemangordon> ->org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.clockd was not provided by any .service files
<freemangordon> FAILED: dbus_connection_send_with_reply_and_block
<freemangordon> dbus[2670]: arguments to internal_bus_get() were incorrect, assertion "(error) == NULL || !dbus_error_is_set ((error))" failed in file ../../../dbus/dbus-bus.c line 426.
<freemangordon> This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library.
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<inky> i got megi's 6.11 running on my pinephone, and it works very well. but i got it under gentoo.
<inky> i would like to update maemo's kernel too, i guess the package has config and git path to some kernel tree and branch?
<inky> is there a separate kernel package or is it part of device adaptation package?
<freemangordon> arno11: 'hsm bug' should be fixed, it turned out to be a bug in clockd/libtime. Please upgrade, revert your changes and test if it is fixed for you
<sicelo> freemangordon: nice!
<sicelo> but maybe hsm also needs some improved error handling? so it's more resilient against 'bad' clients?
<freemangordon> it is already
<freemangordon> it restarts with safe set
<sicelo> ah yes, you're right
<sicelo> * Wizzup preparing daedalus, awesome
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<freemangordon> those 2 bugs were really making me unhappy (poweroff and hsm)
* sicelo doesn't poweroff the D4 ... just shuts down by itself (due to weak battery) :-p
<freemangordon> heh
<sicelo> just putting it here ... Andreas just out of the blue sent message in pmOS chat that goes:
<sicelo> "you might also play around with late_initcall() vs late_initcall_sync() ... in the kernel ... in arch/arm/mach-omap2 ... to geht twl4030 idle working ... and cpu offmode ... on the n900"
<sicelo> maybe this rings a bell to someone here? tmlind_ , freemangordon ? :-)
<toly> Hi, can anyone suggest me how to disable the virtual keyboard from the terminal? Because when I try to disable it from "Settings -> Text Input" i have the message (Internal error. Application 'Settings' closed.)
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<freemangordon> toly: it would be better if you can get a backtrace
<freemangordon> I can help you if you want
<freemangordon> (getting backtrace)
<freemangordon> toly: someone else might find it useful :)
<Wizzup> inky: good news @ 6.11, calls work too?
<freemangordon> toly: so:
<freemangordon> in the shell as user:
<freemangordon> export DISPLAY=:0
<freemangordon> G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all gdb maemo-summoner
<freemangordon> and in gdb:
<freemangordon> r /usr/bin/controlpanel.launch
<freemangordon> then try to disable the VKB
<freemangordon> when it breaks in gdb because of the crash (most-probably segfault), type bt
<freemangordon> and provide the output
<freemangordon> sicelo: sorry, no idea
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<freemangordon> sicelo: besides the obvious: replace late_initcall_sync() with late_initcall() in the driver
<toly> freemangordon, this is the output from gdb:
<toly> Thread 1 "maemo-summoner" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
<toly> (gdb) bt
<toly> 0x00007ffff226b76f in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/hildon-input-method/western_common_vim_settings.so
<toly> #0 0x00007ffff226b76f in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/hildon-input-method/western_common_vim_settings.so
<toly> #1 0x00007ffff2272059 in create_main_dialog () from /usr/lib/hildon-control-panel/libcptextinput.so
<toly> #2 0x00007ffff22715b2 in execute () from /usr/lib/hildon-control-panel/libcptextinput.so
<toly> #3 0x00007ffff7fc38f3 in ?? () from /usr/bin/controlpanel.launch
<toly> #4 0x00007ffff7451d6f in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
<toly> #5 0x00007ffff7452118 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
<toly> #6 0x00007ffff745240b in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
<toly> #7 0x00007ffff7985e4a in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
<toly> #8 0x00007ffff7fc1023 in main () from /usr/bin/controlpanel.launch
<toly> #9 0x000055555555540a in ?? ()
<toly> #10 0x00007ffff7e00d7a in __libc_start_main (main=0x555555555220, argc=2, argv=0x7fffffffe008, init=<optimized out>, fini=<optimized out>, rtld_fini=<optimized out>, stack_end=0x7fffffffdff8)
<toly> at ../csu/libc-start.c:308
<toly> #11 0x000055555555548a in ?? ()
<freemangordon> toly: great!
<freemangordon> now, lets install some debug symbols, just a sec to provide you the commands
<freemangordon> toly: in another terminal:
<freemangordon> sudo apt install hildon-im-common-virtual-settings-dbgsym
<freemangordon> and then r in gdb
<freemangordon> int the first terminal
<freemangordon> and again provide the backtrace, preferably in pastebin or something, not here :)
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<toly> I'm here again
<freemangordon> did you see what I typed ^^^?
<toly> no
<freemangordon> (13,49,00) freemangordon: toly: great!
<freemangordon> (13,50,19) freemangordon: toly: in another terminal:
<freemangordon> (13,49,19) freemangordon: now, lets install some debug symbols, just a sec to provide you the commands
<freemangordon> (13,50,19) freemangordon: sudo apt install hildon-im-common-virtual-settings-dbgsym
<freemangordon> (13,50,37) freemangordon: and then r in gdb
<freemangordon> (13,50,46) freemangordon: int the first terminal
<freemangordon> toly: you see ^^^
<toly> yes
<freemangordon> ok
<toly> just a second
<freemangordon> sure
<toly> Thread 1 "maemo-summoner" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
<toly> cvim_settings_create_language_general_widget (width=0x7fffffffdc60, plugin=<optimized out>) at western-common-vim-settings.c:342
<freemangordon> ok, lemme check the code
<toly> now say me that western-common-vim-settings.c is missing file or dir
<freemangordon> that's ok
<freemangordon> gimme a minute to look at the source
<toly> ok
<buZz> toly: what language did you configure inside maemo?
<buZz> i wonder if its some language we havent tested yet
<toly> Italian
<buZz> ok, that might be relevant
<freemangordon> hmm, seems hildon_im_get_available_languages() returns NULL
<toly> if can be helpful i use the virtual-machines image "maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-20240903.qcow2" that i put on USB drive and boot it on Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3T PC
<freemangordon> toly: will take me a while to check the issue, stay around if possible
<freemangordon> also, may I have a screenshot of your current keyboard settings?
<toly> do you mean screenshot of the screen with the virtual keyboard appeared on or the content of some keyboard config file?
<freemangordon> I mean the settings screen
<freemangordon> or, it does not open?
<freemangordon> so, it crashes as soon as you try to open text settings?
<toly> the setting app open correctly, if you go to mess with other settings inside work well, but when i press Text Input it crash with this error "Internal error. Application 'Settings' closed."
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<freemangordon> ok, got it
<freemangordon> thanks
<freemangordon> ugh:
<freemangordon> $5 = (gchar *) 0x55555563b1c0 "\260TcUUU"
<freemangordon> (gdb) p ((HildonIMLanguage *)l->data)->language_code
<freemangordon> what the?
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<uvos__> freemangordon: was on vaction
<uvos__> seams like i missed some stuff
<uvos__> sicelo: @HSM client isolation
<toly> when i execute p ((HildonIMLanguage *)l->data)->language_code on gdb it say me Cannot access memory at address 0x0
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<uvos__> i guess a way forward with that would be for me to feture-complete the status-notifier-tiem support (https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-status-menu/pull/3)
<uvos__> then we could slowly, very slowly think about transforming the plugins into StatusNotifierItems, so that they live in seperate processies and a bug in one of the plugins dosent crash HSM
<freemangordon> toly: what is the result of gconftool-2 -g /apps/osso/inputmethod/available_languages
<freemangordon> uvos__: I don;t think it is a good idea to move plugins in a separate processes memory-wise
<uvos__> i think this is overoptimization
<uvos__> but ok
<freemangordon> uvos__: in the meanwhile we have poweroff/reboot working on d4 thanks to tony
<uvos__> yeah i just saw :)
<uvos__> great work!
<toly> when i execute gconftool-2 -g /apps/osso/inputmethod/available_languages it say me that (No value set for "/apps/osso/inputmethod/available_languages".)
<freemangordon> well, reboot still has issues of not rebooting at the last stage, but it is no way near to what it was :)
<uvos__> freemangordon: could you look at the pr i linked above? was there any objection, i cant remember.
<freemangordon> toly: this is as user?
<toly> yes
<freemangordon> hmm, that should not be empty
<freemangordon> user@devuan:~/git$ gconftool-2 -g /apps/osso/inputmethod/available_languages
<freemangordon> [de_DE,it_IT,he_IL,is_IS,km_KH,ug_CN,cs_CZ,fi_FI,vi_VN,nl_NL,sl_SI,ro_RO,tr_TR,el_GR,en_GB,ru_RU,th_TH,hr_HR,en_US,pa_IN,pl_PL,sk_SK,bg_BG,ka_GE,ne_NP,sr_RS,pt_PT,be_BY,no_NO,fr_CA,fa_IR,da_DK,sv_SE,dz_BT,es_ES,hy_AM,mk_MK,ca_AD,fr_FR,hu_HU,es_MX]
<freemangordon> uvos__: I think it is mostly a lack of time here
<toly> also execute it with root take me the same error
<freemangordon> uvos__: still, I am not sure I like getting this sn-xxx stuff in h-s-m
<freemangordon> toly: for some reason you gconf db is broken
<freemangordon> lemme check if you can restore it
<Wizzup> wondering if I should also set up devuan excalibur (debian trixie)
<Wizzup> it won't have gconf of course
<Wizzup> freemangordon: did you want me to make a kernel release for -devel ?
<uvos__> Wizzup: would be cool to help porting things away from gconf to have a non-gconf setup
<uvos__> Wizzup: i can do that
<uvos__> Wizzup: there is also a patch from me waiting in there
<Wizzup> ok, sweet
<uvos__> (fixes mapphone leds)
<Wizzup> I'll look at excalibur as well then
<freemangordon> uvos__: moving to gsettings?
<uvos__> freemangordon: yes
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<uvos__> freemangordon: since its very hard to test things moved
<uvos__> as is
<Wizzup> btw, this is not urgent, but I wonder if newer linux has a fix for the xyboard audio not probing
<uvos__> like mce
<Wizzup> I think that might block RET on it too? (not sure)
<toly> i use the default image maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-20240903.qcow2 form the virtual-machines section and also i test the image fiscally on my notebook and also the same result was when i test it on Qemu VM
<uvos__> in gsettings mode
<freemangordon> toly: that seems we have broken images :)
<freemangordon> Wizzup: ^^^
<Wizzup> toly: thanks for the report, we'll try to figure out why that's not set then
<uvos__> Wizzup: this years lts should be determined soon
<uvos__> so we should be able to start rebaseing fairly soon
<freemangordon> toly: lemme see if I can come-up with a workaround until we fix it properly
<toly> you are welcome
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<freemangordon> toly: so:
<freemangordon> sudo hildon-im-recache
<freemangordon> killall hildon-input-method
<toly> now it work
<toly> thank you
<toly> in the end what was the problem?
<freemangordon> broken gconf
<sicelo> Wizzup: trixie also doesn't have python2, not sure if it matters or not
<freemangordon> Wizzup: so, either toly did something bad to his gconf db or image builder does not properly configure packages
<freemangordon> hildon-im-recache is called from postinst scripts of several packages
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: #leste-ci integration with jenkins is still broken
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<Wizzup> yes
<Wizzup> sicelo: I think we already don't have python 2
<Wizzup> not on bullseye, not on bookworm, not on trixie
<Wizzup> no?
<Wizzup> oh we have it on bullseye still
<Wizzup> or do we...
<Wizzup> ah yeah we do on bullseye, but I don't think we use it for anything, maybe some hildon pkgs won't be able to build
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<freemangordon> will port them
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: ok, but jfyi this is already the case now basically
<Wizzup> there's no usable python2 sw left on leste
<Wizzup> (or in general)
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<uvos> Wizzup: i lack permissions to build anything via jenkins webui and leste-ci dosent work so i cant build the kernel
<uvos> or anything for that matter
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<Wizzup> uvos: ok, sorry, I'll try to get it fixed soon
<uvos> Wizzup: can you kick droid4-linux right now?
<uvos> for expiramental
<freemangordon> uvos: for chimaera-devel?
<freemangordon> I can, should I?
<uvos> -exirmamental
<uvos> yes please
<freemangordon> why experimental?
<uvos> becasue i rebased on latest stable
<uvos> and need to test it first
<freemangordon> ah, you rebased on latest 6.6.y?
<uvos> yes
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> did you boot it on your device at least?
<uvos> no thats why -experimental
<freemangordon> ok, done
<uvos> thanks
<freemangordon> usually I build it locally first
<uvos> usualy a good idea
<uvos> but i think this is low risk
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> did you check the changes?
<uvos> i diffed arch/arm and found very little yeah
<freemangordon> cool
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<arno11> freemangordon: 'killall hsm' is still needed to get 'availability' btn working on my N900 unfortunately
<arno11> after last upgrade
<freemangordon> arno11: ok, but now at least I know how to trace it
<freemangordon> but won;t do it now
<arno11> yeah :)
<arno11> ok no probs
<freemangordon> tomorrow morning I am going on a business trip
<freemangordon> perhaps on sunday or monday evening will have some spare tim, will ping you
<arno11> ok
<freemangordon> hmm, or rather
<freemangordon> arno11: edit /etc/X11/Xsession.post/15hildon-status-menu, to look like:
<freemangordon> G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all DEBUG_OUTPUT=1 /usr/bin/hildon-status-menu &
<freemangordon> delete .xsession-errors
<freemangordon> and reboot the device
<freemangordon> then check .xsession-errors
<arno11> ok
<arno11> rebooting...
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<freemangordon> arno11: and... ?
<arno11> freemangordon: got an ham update error (apt-worker is blocked on my device)
<arno11> and location-status
<arno11> (using dbus)
<freemangordon> arno11: so, the only missing appet is presence-ui?
<freemangordon> *applet
<arno11> apparently, yes
<freemangordon> ok, that's a bug in the applet then
<arno11> ok
<freemangordon> perhaps some dbus service is not running, I will have a look
<arno11> oh wait
<freemangordon> hmm?
<arno11> the 'debugging' xsession.post file make hsm working
<arno11> with availibility btn
<freemangordon> makes no sense
<freemangordon> please restore and test again
<arno11> but no location applet
<arno11> agree, but that's what i see
<freemangordon> location applet?
<arno11> ok
<freemangordon> what is that?
<arno11> (gps)
<freemangordon> that should not bve visible unless you use gps
<arno11> yes i know
<arno11> but it is supposed to appear if gps is activated and a gps app like maep
<freemangordon> yes
<freemangordon> but thats another issue, not related to h-s-m itself
<freemangordon> lets see what happens with presence-ui
<arno11> it is related because if i kill hsm it works
<freemangordon> no, it is no, trust me
<freemangordon> perhaps those applets expect some dbus services to be running, but they are not
<freemangordon> I see no error in h-s-m whatsoever
<arno11> ah scratch that, gps icon and btn are just slow to appear
<arno11> it works
<freemangordon> do you have online account enabled?
<arno11> yup
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> so, only presence-ui does not appear?
<arno11> yes indeed
<arno11> sorry i have to go for 1h
<freemangordon> sure, I have no time as well now
<arno11> ok, ttyl
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<freemangordon> arno11: I have an idea, please ping me when you are back
<buZz> 13:52:01 < freemangordon> sudo hildon-im-recache
<buZz> ooooo fancy
<buZz> that repopulates the whole gconf?
<buZz> or just the inputmethod stuff?
<buZz> !newfaq inputmethod crashes? try hildon-im-recache
<buZz> :D
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<uvos> freemangordon: kernel seams fine
<freemangordon> uvos: push it to -devel, I'll spin a rebuild
<uvos> freemangordon: just did
<freemangordon> ok, build is running
<uvos> Wizzup: there is a newer wpasupplicant in -expiramental should that be promoted?
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<Wizzup> uvos: I thought the new hostapd worked with our host mode but it didnmt
<Wizzup> it worked with 6.1 but not 6.6
<Wizzup> so I suppose not
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<arno11> freemangordon: back
<freemangordon> arno11: please reboot, so presence-ui menu is invisible
<freemangordon> then got to settings and disable/enable some account
<freemangordon> and check if button appeared
<freemangordon> what I suspect is that by the time h-s-m loads presence-ui plugin, telepathy reports no accounts, for some reason
<arno11> it wasn't working before last changes, same result now :(
<freemangordon> you mean disable/enable an account from the settings makes no difference?
<arno11> yup
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> a pity
<freemangordon> anyway, when I have some spare time I'll prepare a special presence-ui plugin, with lots of traces
<arno11> (rename 15hsm to 75hsm still works btw)
<arno11> ok cool
<freemangordon> to track down whats going on
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<arno11> ok
<freemangordon> I understand, but the bug is still there and may bite us anytime
<freemangordon> so I prefer to fix it properly
<arno11> weird that it works normally if hsm starts later
<arno11> yes ofc
<freemangordon> it is some dbus service that's not started
<freemangordon> or dbus times out
<freemangordon> but, with traces we will see
<arno11> fingers crossed
<freemangordon> don't hold your breath though, this will happen earlier next week
<arno11> ok
<freemangordon> uvos: upgraded the kernel, so far so good, besides iphb.ko didn't rebuild
<freemangordon> but thats common issue with dkms
<freemangordon> it is fixed in current stable
<freemangordon> afaik
<freemangordon> debian stable that is
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