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<inky> as i understand matrix is very heavy. but users like it for some reason. i prefer xmpp/jabber.
<inky> and i come here via my own xmpp gateway.
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<buZz> inky: afaik matrix' infra is 99% 'just irc'
<buZz> so not sure which part is the 'heavy part' , the crypto? OMEMO/doubleratchet isnt -that- hard to do , even for a armv7
<dsc_> oh yeah? try to do that manually in netcat
<buZz> iirc tehmaze made a irc client in pure bash
<dsc_> was joking :d
<buZz> havent seen a omemo in bash yet, but i dont think its impossible
<buZz> someone in #irssi was porting it to perl
<sicelo> buZz: 99% just irc ... no. it's BIG. look at the spec
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<uvos__> yeah for sure its huge
<uvos__> but unlike irc its federated which is imo a huge advantage
<uvos__> that and source code formating
<Wizzup> yeah it's not bad per se, I just don't really see what it brings over well implemented xmpp with extensions
<Wizzup> but in any case I had it working in some basic form in conversations too
<uvos__> the only real thing it has over xmpp is userbase yeah
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<sicelo> people like the history, without need of a bouncer
<Wizzup> xmpp offers this
<sicelo> which hildon component handles rearranging of icons in the application list (where they're all listed and you can launch one you like)
<sicelo> i want to look to see if i can figure out and fix https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/690
<Wizzup> this is a good question, parazyd and I made a script to generate the debian subdir iirc, and since then this is broken
<Wizzup> I am not on my laptop atm
<sicelo> sure. maybe i should look at the script ... if you know where i should look
<sicelo> time full
<sicelo> time flies. it's more than a year since i reported that
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