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<uvos__> Wizzup: you create a hacky-maemo-modules.ini in sphone.d in leste config?
<uvos__> the defaults get purged of maemo (besides libhildon as thats compile time for now)
<uvos__> and everything just works and i can use the same package on debian too
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<uvos__> eventually we can use the provides and priority mechanism sphone to make it try and load the maemo modules first and fall back to the generic ones otherwise
<uvos__> but this is only half implemented atm
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<Lt_Cable> Hello everyone! I'm new to Maemo, and am very interested in the project. I own a Moto Droid 3, and I'm having some problems with the bionic-clown-boot exploit to install kexecboot. Yes, I have read the wiki. I'm having a problem specifically with the install.sh script in particular. I know that the Droid 3 is in early development with Maemo, but if
<Lt_Cable> there is a way to install it, I would be happy to help in development with the device. Would anybody here be able to help me with the process? Thanks :)
<Wizzup> hi
<Lt_Cable> hi!
<Wizzup> the main problem with the droid3 is gross instability likely related to a single factor that we haven't been able to pin down yet
<Wizzup> I can try to help you with kexecboot, but keep in mind the device might reboot like 10 seconds after showing the UI.
<Lt_Cable> Alright
<Lt_Cable> Have you been able to get maemo to run on the Droid 3, or is the instability within kexecboot?
<Wizzup> it can boot to maemo
<Wizzup> brb workmtg
<Lt_Cable> Ok
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<Lt_Cable> Wizzup For when you get back from work - The issue that I have is with with install.sh. I was able to run the motofail exploit and install superuser on the phone. On install.sh the files push to the phone, but when any of the 'adb shell' commands run, I get outputs like 'read only filesystem' I run the script using sudo bash in the terminal, so not
<Lt_Cable> sure what the problem is... do I need to change permissions to certain system files on the phone?
<Wizzup> right, yes, you need to remount some filesystem as read-write, the script lacks that
<Lt_Cable> Do you know how to do that? Sorry, I am inexperienced with this.
<Wizzup> yes, but I don't have the exact solution right now
<Lt_Cable> That's alright. Would you be able to help me later, or do you know anywhere I can go to get help? Thanks!
<Wizzup> well the insta..lsh is pretty short, so probably /system or /sdcard is read only
<Wizzup> the problem is that on android mount -o remount,ro doesn't work and I need to try to remember what it is
<Wizzup> but yeah I can help later -- probably tomorrow
<Wizzup> or maybe uvos__ could, he write clownboot
<Lt_Cable> Thank you very much! Let me know if you remember.
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<diejuse> Is it possible in ML to open an application in a floating and permanent window above the rest?
<sicelo> no
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<diejuse> ok
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<sicelo> it didn't make much sense back then, i guess, because the phones had small screens. maybe someone will implement it someday :-)
<sicelo> what did you have in mind?
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<diejuse> I had in mind to install onboard and leave its floating icon to use whenever I want.
<diejuse> I think it is a very useful keyboard that can even serve as a gamepad for games.
<inky> diejuse, my friend wrote this kbd just by using x11 functions:
<inky> i use it on droid4 when i rut windowmaker on it.
<inky> run*
<inky> but never tried in hildon.
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<inky> but maybe since it doesnt have window decorator hildon won't make it fullscreen?
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<diejuse> yes, tha is the problem
<diejuse> I tried kbd too
<diejuse> That's why I asked about a floating window above the rest of the windows.
<inky> no no u tried svkbd.
<diejuse> ah ok
<inky> i'll try this coolkbd now.
<diejuse> But I tried more keyboard with the same result
<diejuse> i'll try this coolkbd now. => perfect
<inky> omg omg omg
<inky> it works!
<inky> let me show the screenshot now.
<diejuse> Yeah?
<inky> yeah that's what you want.
<inky> minute
<diejuse> sure
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<Wizzup> seems good for some terminal apps at least
<diejuse> It's exactly what I wanted. :D
<diejuse> If it is customizable, even better
<inky> it is but in c code.
<inky> it works but then sometimes it doesn't work under maemo
<inky> so i kill it and start again
<inky> i don't understand when it works and when not.
<diejuse> mmm
<inky> also on regular desktop screen i can move it around by dragging by the top bar.
<diejuse> If you have time to review it, it would be great.
<inky> here i cannot.
<inky> that's why i don't see input field of dino.
<inky> it's not mine. but if you contact the dev he'll be happy to help.
<diejuse> good
<inky> oh no
<inky> i guess you cannot register there https://repo.coolbug.org/bw/coolkbd ?
<inky> if you cannot i'll ask the dev how to contact him.
<inky> do you have jabber?
<diejuse> I have never used jabber.
<inky> i guess mail then. (but it's time to start using it) (:
<diejuse> It's okay, I think it's worth waiting
<inky> so i suggest this. you try to use it
<inky> and write down your wishes or problems you encountered.
<inky> meanwhile i'll ask him about contact email and will pass it to you.
<diejuse> Is it customizable? Does it have up and down arrows too?
<inky> yes it has different layouts
<inky> if you press that left and right arrows layouts change.
<inky> minute i'll show you.
<diejuse> ok
<inky> it had also full pc keyboard layout, don't understand why it doesn't show up.
<inky> with all keyboards including all four arrows.
<inky> maybe i compiled it this way to not show it.
<inky> don't remember.
<diejuse> It seems very complete.
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<diejuse> yes, arrow are missed in the pictures
<inky> trying to find arrows in the source code.
<inky> yes there is layout.en.full.inc.c
<diejuse> I'm glad that a solution for what I was looking for is close by.
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<inky> ok i was tinkering with it and it became too big or it is too small.
<inky> i'll talk to the dev.
<inky> for now you can download the source
<inky> build with sh build.sh
<inky> and run with
<inky> ./coolkbd from maemo
<inky> or if you ssh to it then DISPLAY=:0 ./coolkbd
<inky> then you can kill it with killall coolkbd
<inky> i have to get back to tork.
<inky> work.
<diejuse> Perfect, thanks, I'll try it later, :)
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<freemangordon> inky: how do you make that kbd show?
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<diejuse> I just installed it but it doesn't work for me. The same thing happens to me as with the other keyboards.
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<inky> > inky: how do you make that kbd show?
<inky> i just run it. ./coolkbd
<diejuse> me too
<inky> oh, i understand why
<inky> probably because of defaults in config.h
<inky> let me see what were the defaults
<inky> minute
<inky> in config.h there is commented define NOBORDER.
<inky> can you uncomment it?
<inky> and rebuild the kbd.
<diejuse> ok, i am going to
<inky> freemangordon, i use svkbd in postmarketos and i have to say that i am so much okay that when i tap in the input field the keyboard doesn't appear. the keyboard starts when i swipe with finger from exact place and it gets killed (yes killed) when i swipe back.
<inky> but what i get is that i can type everywhere because it just types with x
<inky> well actually it adds the pressed button to the current layout.
<inky> it can be done in our kbd as well.
<diejuse> works
<diejuse> genius
<inky> yeah.
<inky> now i don't understand why the pc layout doesnt show up, i think it is included properly.
<diejuse> yes, we need to try the arrow keys
<inky> freemangordon, the function is XChangeKeyboardMapping()
<inky> diejuse, i don't understand, when tapping left and right it should appear as one of the layouts. need to build on computer and try.
<inky> maybe i changed something.
<inky> in my version on droid.
<diejuse> or a way to edit the keys
<inky> keys are defined in header files.
<diejuse> and to add that keys
<diejuse> ok, I'll play a little now and try to edit them
<inky> this is full keyboard like on pc.
<inky> if you run linux you can debug it on your computer.
<inky> then on droid.
<inky> other files are config.h and layout.defs.h
<diejuse> And how do I create a shortcut so that the keyboard appears when I press a key? for example volume up?
<inky> no idea.
<diejuse>  I have a shortcut to make the Maemo keyboard appear
<inky> i patched maemo input method once by adding many layouts. now i think one day i have to add that XChangeKeyboardMapping(). because i can only type armenian in the gtk and qt patched by freemangordon.
<diejuse> I have "RaiseVkb=XF86AudioRaiseVolume"
<inky> otherwise i cannot.
<inky> that i don't know. that someone else has to answer.
<diejuse> ok
<inky> there are linux programs that you can define gestures with and what will happen because of them.
<inky> but i don't remember names. i think it is better to do that way.
<inky> also on postmarketos (sxmo) the window in which i type resizes so that the input field is always visible and is not under svkbd.
<inky> in maemo the window in which you type never resizes, it is always full screen.
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<diejuse> On the other hand, I leave you a video in which you can see that I have managed to obtain the battery level and take and view a photo from Maemo using the Android camera, with proot.
<diejuse> Everything is going quite smoothly.
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<diejuse> inky now i don't understand why the pc layout doesnt show up, i think it is included properly => By pressing the "Fn" key, the keyboard appears with the arrows and another key called "Full." That is the way to access the pc layout.
<inky> i don't understand as well. (:
<inky> can you try on a computer?
<inky> do you have a linux computer? i think it was showing up on a computer.
<diejuse> I just copied your sentence from before. :)
<inky> oh!
<inky> you found out how to do it!
<diejuse> yess
<inky> ok, let me know if you fidn out how to increase sizes or otherwise customize it.
<inky> i tried today a bit but didn't succeed in acheaving what i wanted.
<diejuse> I'm going to try to figure out how to make a shortcut.
<inky> okay. (:
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<diejuse> inky Shorcut added. I installed and used "xbindkeys"
<inky> yay
<diejuse> Now the keyboard appears when I press the volume up key.
<diejuse> thanks for the help mate
<diejuse> It has some bugs but it is useful.
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