10:40 <arno11> good surprise and promising: links2 browser (in graphical mode + hildon compo disabled) is extremely fast on N900 with cool old school rendering. The speed reminds me opera mini on Fremantle but links2 has more options and settings. It is even possible to activate JavaScript (re-compilation needed). Scrolling works well but only with cursor. Html login form works too. Image rendering is good. But a

10:40 <arno11> better UserAgent is needed i think.

10:41 <arno11> when i say "extremely fast", it means 0.5-2sec to load a page

10:42 <arno11> and the power cons is really low

10:45 <arno11> it's not perfect but after trying lot of browsers (and tweaks), i don't see something comparable to links2 in term of performances on N900

10:47 <arno11> and options available

11:00 <maxwelld> surf2 was also very fast on d4. compared to even qtbrowser. it was opening chess.com or lichess.org, i don't remember, in a second, while the other one took about ten seconds to render the same.

11:00 <maxwelld> maybe it is necessary that the browser name end with 2 for it to be fast.

11:01 <arno11> lol maybe

15:30 <Wizzup> leste.maemo.org and phoenix.maemo.or will be down just a little while

15:31 <Wizzup> running lxc-attach and then typing 'exit' was apparently enough to crash the host or something

15:36 <Wizzup> nevermind, the wifi I am on nuts

15:36 <Wizzup> is nuts

15:55 <le0nklcpp> unquestionably, links2 has the best performance, the functional is the problem. I haven't tried links2 with JS, but Netsurf has JS support too(and probably better), and well... some content works

16:02 <buZz> this webbrowser is so interesting to me ; https://github.com/fathyb/carbonyl

16:02 <buZz> but, wont likely be fast on n900

16:02 <Wizzup> I mean it's chromium, so yeah

16:02 <buZz> i often use it over ssh though :)

16:02 <buZz> funny to have functional youtube (no sound) over ssh

16:08 <le0nklcpp> I somehow missed that surf2 is much faster than qtwebview or falkon on N900. Great WebKit's merit, seems like chromium is not the challenger. There's also a fatal problem - keyboard input does not work on webpages in surf2

16:21 <le0nklcpp> tabbar in Falkon can be turned off in settings too

16:22 <Wizzup> is there a way to turn it off by default? I don't think we'll ever want tabs

16:33 <le0nklcpp> Of course. Would you like to leave address bar enabled?

16:33 <Wizzup> I think we'll need that somewhere at least

16:34 <Wizzup> the menu bar could perhaps be hidden too (although I don't remember if this was actually visible or not)

16:38 <le0nklcpp> menu bar is now integrated with Hildon, however with navigation bar disabled it shows up. I'm working on it

16:38 <buZz> le0nklcpp++

16:41 <Wizzup> le0nklcpp: ah, cool

17:19 <bencoh> buZz: ah right, I still need to try carbonyl

17:25 <arno11> me too :)

17:26 <buZz> its amazing to me :)

21:28 <Wizzup> btw I'd love to see if we can get a part of anki styled nicely for maemo :)

22:40 <le0nklcpp> surf2 input problem on N900 is fixed by adding gtk_widget_grab_input to buttonreleased function in surf.c, and after that surf2 will be the best working browser for N900

23:09 <Wizzup> le0nklcpp: oh, that's great