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<dsimic>
mmind00: I was really surprised to see QNAP using an RK3568, and I was a bit disappointed to see only 4 GB of DRAM for the price they charge for it :/
<dsimic>
if it had 8 GB of RAM, it would be perfect :)
<dsimic>
it would still be a bit expensive, but you've got to pay for its proprietary software as well
<dsimic>
regarding the MaskROM header, perhaps QNAP followed the reference Rockchip design :)
<dsimic>
of course, nice job on making the TS-433 supported better in mainline kernel :)
<dlg>
yes, nice work
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<mmind00>
dsimic: that "proprietary software" is definitly overpayed though ... looking at their firmware made my eyes bleed
<dsimic>
frankly, I'm not surprised to hear that
<dsimic>
what was actually wrong with its firmware? what do they actually use?
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<mmind00>
dsimic: I just don't like vendor firmwares in general ... the reason I bought the device was the rk3568 and thus the ability to hopefully replace everything without going mad
<mmind00>
dsimic: but from what I read qnap software has a tendency to phone home a lot
<mmind00>
so I actually never ran its intended firmware and just did go to the replace-it step directly ;-)
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<mmind00>
their rescue-system uses library versions that Debian doesn't even have in oldoldstable anymore ... base-kernel is of course a Rockchip 5.10 and some "hal" binary crap on top that abstracts talking to an embedded controller that does things like fan control
<mmind00>
(over a serial port :-) )
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<dsimic>
oh, I don't like vendor software in general :)
<dsimic>
phoning home is especially bad :/
<dsimic>
yes, I read about the serial-port-connected MCU in your patches... do you know what MCU is that?
<dsimic>
have you taken the NAS apart to see it?
<mps>
dsimic: I wonder who likes it (vendor software)
<dsimic>
vendors, probably :)
<mps>
haha
<dsimic>
:D
<mps>
you made me to smile after bad night, thanks
<dsimic>
hearing that makes me smile, too :)
<mps>
nice to hear
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<mmind00>
dsimic: nope, haven't taken the device apart ... qnap engineers had the foresight to provide all the necessary headers easily accessible through the drive bay opening ;-)
<mmind00>
diederik: haha nope ... only marginally followed the rng series so far
<diederik>
thanks to it I discovered that my new AMD CPU/APU has a bug wrt HWRNG ... it's not working (while it does work on my older AMD CPU)
<qschulz>
diederik: which AMD CPU :) I'm "about to" build my new NAS based on one
<naoki>
about ROCK Pi E, I can see "irq29: nobody cared" oops. how can I check what is IRQ29?
<diederik>
qschulz: AMD Ryzen 5 5500GT
<diederik>
... which I bought for my (to be build) NAS system ;-)
<naoki>
GIC_SPI 29?
<naoki>
(I guess no)
<CounterPillow>
Probably, when reading the TRM make sure you don't take the interrupt numbers at face value but for SPI interrupt factor in the offset those have
<diederik>
qschulz: I'm currently triaging it, but it could be that the latest microcode update fixes it ... but currently working to figure out which one I'm actually running
<naoki>
... oh I found a bug in rk3328-rock-pi-e.dts...
<qschulz>
diederik: nice :) i'll be going for a PRO 8300GE i think for myself, want an APU in there (replace my RPi4 with LibreElec) and ECC and use AM5 socket for future-proof-ability :)
<diederik>
yeah, I had 64G of RAM laying about, so figured I'd better find a use for that ;)
<diederik>
(and concluded, possibly incorrectly, that the GE variants weren't for sale to 'normal' consumers)
<qschulz>
diederik: they aren't, but you can buy them from "OEMs"
<diederik>
yeah, as part of a complete system (IIUC) ... which is not what I was looking for
<qschulz>
nah, I also don't want a complete system
<qschulz>
you are not having AMD warranty though through that reseller channel, so...
<qschulz>
basically the reseller buys loads of those SoCs on trays, then they repackage them into invidiual ones
<qschulz>
AIFAU
<qschulz>
AFAIU
<diederik>
ah ok, the shop where I usually buy stuff, doesn't have those GE variants. I wouldn't care about no AMD warranty as you'd rarely if ever need it. But in this case I'm glad I bought it at my local shop
<qschulz>
diederik: it was actually a quite painful experience to come up with the components for the NAS I want to build. And I still haven't bought any parts :)
<qschulz>
I was waiting for the Jonsbo N4 to be available in Europe, but it wasn't for two months so was even considering taking the risk to buy it from AliExpress
<qschulz>
but it is now available in Europe, and even cheaper than on AliExpress, make it make sense
<diederik>
I'm just re-using old parts, I just replaced MB+CPU+RAM
<qschulz>
:) I have a microserver gen8 right now, not really upgradable :)
<diederik>
To make it more/back on-topic, I'd been advocating for sth like the Rock 5 ITX for years, so that people could re-use their old PC case/PSU/etc to build their own energy efficient NAS
<diederik>
Hence why I recently remarked that I thought that board was the first product I thought was actually usuable
<naoki>
(I'm noooooob...)
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<wens>
re-did my quartz64 sd card, and now ethernet doesn't work ...
<wens>
qschulz: why the APU version? the standard versions after ryzen 7000 also have iGPUs?
<qschulz>
wens: Yes, standard versions to have the APU. But IIRC you have non-APU versions now (which arent' the default anymore)
<qschulz>
s/to/now do/
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