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<esden[m]> Yeah that is correct. 🙂
<_whitenotifier-3> [glasgow] isabelburgos synchronize pull request #649: Isabelburgos/spi controller applets padless - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/649
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<_whitenotifier-3> [glasgow] isabelburgos synchronize pull request #649: Isabelburgos/spi controller applets padless - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/649
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<_whitenotifier-3> [glasgow] isabelburgos reviewed pull request #649 commit - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/649#discussion_r1694414454
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<_whitenotifier-3> [glasgow] isabelburgos reviewed pull request #649 commit - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/649#discussion_r1694414881
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<urja[m]> Thanks (and pretty much as I figured, was just a "did I miss some place" after trying to look for just them..)
<esden[m]> They will be available in the 1bitsquared.com and 1bitsquared.de stores in not too distant future. The products don't exist in the store yet.
<urja[m]> Oh a random datapoint for your "shaving 0.5s from showing the help" conversation...
<urja[m]> I have two ASUS C201 chromebooks, running the same binaries (afaik), and "time glasgow" (repeatedly done, so not a cold one) takes about 4 seconds on one, and about 7.5 seconds on another one .... and i cant think of any other meaningful difference than that the 7.5 second one is running from microSD (vs eMMC for the faster one)
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<_whitenotifier-3> [glasgow] whitequark commented on pull request #650: Firmware read pull io expander input - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/650#issuecomment-2254950697
<whitequark[m]> this is unrelated to amaranth. it is not possible to control the internal pulls of the ice40
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<purdeaandrei[m]> It's not possible to control it from logic but it should be possible to control it during bitstream generation. And it would be useful have the pull-ups be enabled continuously for the selftest.
<purdeaandrei[m]> I'm just thinking all pull-ups for all 16 data and 16 direction control pins enabled, could be useful for testing shorts
<whitequark[m]> this has always been possible since amaranth's 0.1 release, what are you talking about?
<whitequark[m]> that said, this requires modifying pin attributes and so adding a different resource, which will clash heavily with the target logic
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<whitequark[m]> purdeaandrei (@_discord_693328004947902465:catircservices.org) I think we should discuss the approach for the selftest before continuing; I feel like it doesn't fit very well into an applet any more
<whitequark[m]> I think it might deserve its own target and a toplevel command, or something like that
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<_whitenotifier-3> [glasgow] urjaman commented on issue #180: Multiple Simultaneous Applets - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/issues/180#issuecomment-2256359296
<_whitenotifier-3> [glasgow] whitequark commented on issue #180: Multiple Simultaneous Applets - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/issues/180#issuecomment-2256364590
<_whitenotifier-3> [glasgow] urjaman commented on issue #180: Multiple Simultaneous Applets - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/issues/180#issuecomment-2256381700
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<_whitenotifier-3> [glasgow] isabelburgos synchronize pull request #649: Isabelburgos/spi controller applets padless - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/649
<_whitenotifier-3> [glasgow] isabelburgos synchronize pull request #649: Isabelburgos/spi controller applets padless - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/649
<_whitenotifier-3> [glasgow] isabelburgos reviewed pull request #649 commit - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/649#discussion_r1695685562
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<Wanda[cis]> hmm, say, what's the state of the memory-25x applet
<whitequark[cis]> wdym?
<Wanda[cis]> we're uhh
<Wanda[cis]> having issues
<Wanda[cis]> aside of the obvious UX ones (parameters not automatically taken from the ID block)
<Wanda[cis]> it just hangs on programming?
<whitequark[cis]> oh, check WP pin
<Wanda[cis]> ... hm?
<Wanda[cis]> what would be the failure mode of that?
<Wanda[cis]> pin is apparently high
<whitequark[cis]> weird. try -vvv
<Wanda[cis]> .... that fixed the issue
<Wanda[cis]> I have no idea why.
<Wanda[cis]> (I mean in the meantime elly also got annoyed with memory-25x and switched to spi-flashrom, but that also was hanging; also she got impatient and switched from 2.5MHz to 5MHz at the same time as trying -vvv)
<Wanda[cis]> (I'm going to pin this on cosmic radiation)
<whitequark[cis]> wtf
<whitequark[cis]> wait
<whitequark[cis]> HOLD?
<whitequark[cis]> is that connected
<Wanda[cis]> it is
<Wanda[cis]> well
<Wanda[cis]> it flashed correctly with spi-flashrom at second attempt
<Wanda[cis]> and the target seems to be booting
<Wanda[cis]> so... yay I guess?
<whitequark[cis]> if you had it disconnected that could be random charge on HOLD or sth
<Wanda[cis]> HOLD was connected the whole time
<Wanda[cis]> we also ended up disconnecting WP at some point in attempts to diagnose this thing
<Wanda[cis]> it worked without it in the end
<whitequark[cis]> bizarre
<whitequark[cis]> memory-25x is in general incredibly reliable
<Wanda[cis]> .... I mean the target is a bit wonky